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twistedlemon
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Another rider down... Reply with quote

Hi guys,

One of my mates was killed last night riding his 2013 CBR600RR. He was riding home from work, followed by his girlfriend (in a car) and a pedestrian stepped into the road and into the path of my friend. The ped died on-scene and the rider died later in hospital. This sent chills down my spine, and reminded me how important it is to watch the road ahead for any potential threats. Granted, it was quite dark, but I believe that in any accident steps can be taken to lessen the severity.

Be safe guys, and RIP to our brother. Hope there's a sweet ride waiting for him in Heaven!
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, that's harsh Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of my nightmares.

It always amazes me how many Londoners consider it a good idea to dress all in black, find the darkest section of the street and then boldly cross without looking. This is an issue any time of the year, but in winter mornings, especially. The peds are dopier/half awake, I guess. I have to keep a sharp eye ahead for barely perceptible silhouettes.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad to hear, Thumbs Down I'd like to know what speed the road was if I'm honest and if it was unlit.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very sad to hear Sad R.I.P
Not saying this is the case here, but many peds have those headphones stuck in their ears so cannot hear traffic approaching and are distracted! Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

esullivan wrote:
This is one of my nightmares.

It always amazes me how many Londoners consider it a good idea to dress all in black, find the darkest section of the street and then boldly cross without looking. This is an issue any time of the year, but in winter mornings, especially. The peds are dopier/half awake, I guess. I have to keep a sharp eye ahead for barely perceptible silhouettes.


This happened to me, the guy was shitfaced wearing a tuxedo. Those big fat R&G bungs my TDM shattered his leg and left the bone sticking out.

Best part was this girl to just appeared looked at the bloke and said "Shiiiiiiiiit what happened to James Bond" Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Another rider down... Reply with quote

Sorry for your loss; my thoughts to friends and family.

Do you know what gear he had on? Did he impact anything significant?

It's fairly unusual for a rider to be killed in such a situation I would say, thus asking.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It happened in South Africa, my home country. I'm not sure whether he was wearing full gear or not, but on that particular stretch of road minibus taxis like to pull over for peds on the other side of the street. They cross the road because they know if they're hit the driver gets done for culpable homicide. In this case, the ped was killed instantly. I imagine that when the ped was hit, he was flung from the bike and injured by other traffic.

I have to be honest with you guys, my mate didn't have much experience on bikes. He had only had his 600RR for a few months with no previous riding experience. There are no laws there with regards to the size of bike you can ride/tests etc. Something I think we all take for granted here in the UK. A lot of my other friends drove past the scene after it had just happened (small town).

Always wear your gear, always have enough time to stop for the unexpected. Ride safe guys!
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the road speed limits there? I've gone head on into a car at 30, been thrown off, landed on an oncoming car and "escaped" with a bucket load of injuries.

Shit situation the with Mrs behind though, very shit.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pedestrian stepped out on me a number of years back. Luckily I was going slowly but it still gives me chills to think about it.

A sad time.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

On that specific stretch I believe the limit is 50mp/h, but as we all know it doesn't take much for a fatal crash.

All I can see on Facebook is stuff relating to him, and on his profile as his cover photo is him standing over the 600RR. It's tragic.

I'm so grateful that with the new laws in the UK, bikers are forced to prove their ability before being given the rights to ride. In SA, the USA, it's the complete opposite. You can go out and buy whatever you want right off the bat, in some states you don't even need the motorcycle endorsement just a valid car licence!! This is why we have lower motorcycle fatality rates here in the UK.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend from that kinda area had a nasty accident in the UK - he was just wearing jeans and trainers as he would have 'at home'.
Suspect his injuries would have been similar to the ones I got with my nasty crash when racing (out of hospital in two days, though a lot longer to recover) if he'd been wearing decent kit. Instead it was several months, masses of pain, addiction to morphine and so on.
Probably helped for him that he hit someone pulling out of a hospital - much as we moan about the NHS, I suspect you've still got a better chance here than in SA.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt there is a biker that hasnt lost somebody close to them. Even us BCF lot have had a few fellow members taken away. I've lost a couple of good friends and we all know what you are going through.

We all know there is nothing we can say that will make this tragic accident any easier to bear but, and as said above, our condolences to you and those effected first hand by this event. RIP fellow biker.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What makes it even more tough is that we're bikers, and there's a certain "bond" between us. We know why we're bikers but other people out there don't, they don't understand our addiction and never will. And every time there's a biking accident the first thing people all say is "I told him to be careful on his bike I knew this would happen!" and it just drives me up the wall.

Even if I wanted to stop being a motorcyclist, I couldn't. It's already deep in my bones - you guys all know what I'm talking about.

Despite seeing my friends crash and sometimes die, I still want to be a biker and still can't wait to ride again.

I'm fairly sure he was wearing a decent textile jacket, gloves, boots and a helmet. I think he rode in Kevlar jeans. Unfortunately being run over by other cars is something armour can't help with. Otherwise he would have just slid on the road, maybe a few grazes and a bruised ego (with the culpable homicide charge).
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know how I'd cope if I lost a friend riding. Condolences man Sad

This is why I'm taking advanced lessons, too much lessons have to be learned from experience on bikes and sometimes you're not gonna be here to learn from your mistake.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saltire wrote:
Don't know how I'd cope if I lost a friend riding. Condolences man Sad

This is why I'm taking advanced lessons, too much lessons have to be learned from experience on bikes and sometimes you're not gonna be here to learn from your mistake.


If you follow the stuff on YouTube from experienced bikers as well, it helps. Won't mention any names here I'm not sure it's allowed, but if you search on the Tube for "vanishing point" or "limit point" there'll be some good advanced stuff. Also focuses on road positioning, counter steering, all that stuff. All I know is when I'm moving on the roads it all comes naturally, but it takes incredible concentration. If I lose it for just a moment, I start to under-steer and have to remember to keep pushing the handlebar.

Advanced lessons will only help, but also practice!! This is why I'm not scared of riding in the wet, makes me better in the dry.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wet weathers nothing, windy weather with it's side winds I can't stand and refrain from riding in it if I can avoid it.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend from that kinda area had a nasty accident in the UK - he was just wearing jeans and trainers as he would have 'at home'.
Suspect his injuries would have been similar to the ones I got with my nasty crash when racing (out of hospital in two days, though a lot longer to recover) if he'd been wearing decent kit. Instead it was several months, masses of pain, addiction to morphine and so on.
Probably helped for him that he hit someone pulling out of a hospital - much as we moan about the NHS, I suspect you've still got a better chance here than in SA.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, sounds like they just wasn't watching where they were walking. What a knob.

Not entirely sure how you can fail to hear a motorcycle but still.

RIP.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saltire wrote:
Don't know how I'd cope if I lost a friend riding. Condolences man Sad


Condolences as well. Sorry for your loss.

Last time I lost someone really close to me, I went out and got married. Not recommended.
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