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BikinChainz
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Any experiences with motorcycle sheds? Reply with quote
Hey guys,

I've had a Honda VFR800 for like 8 months now and with the winter coming up, I don't really want to keep it outside anymore and the garages near my house cost a FORTUNE.

I was doing some research on what to do to keep it safe, whether just some plastic sheet over it would be enough and then I stumbled upon this site: https://www.motorcyclesheds.net/

I don't know anyone who uses that type of sheds or anything similar and couldn't find much information on them so I wanted to ask if anyone here as experiences with shelters/sheds of that type?

I'm looking at the CycleDome one because it's pretty cheap and looks good but would like someone elses opinion on this beforehand.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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PostPosted: 12:26 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think what I'd do in your situation is save the money you would spend on the canvas shed thing and instead go out and buy a decent cover, a cyclone V2 alarm, and a couple of decent locks.

The alarm will definitely trigger if somebody tries to take a cover off your bike, however it isn't guranteed to go off if somebody cuts through the canvas shed, plus if they want your bike they will have it regardless, I can't see that cycledome being any better than a decent cover.

Cyclone V2 alarms are highly reccomended by myself and many others on the forum. £30, a + and - wire, and clip into the indicator relay and thats it, a 20 minute job if that.

You can even hook up an immobiliser/auto start if you want to.

But seriously, cover, locks, alarm Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've had mine in essentially a small shipping crate for 6 months over winter in the past - benefits are it was already obviously very reinforced so with some good locks and internal anchor etc i'd say it was as safe as it could get.

Negatives was condensation was quite bad at times, but if you whack a load of these or similar around the thing on shelves or whatever it will take a large chunk of it out
https://www.homecareessentials.co.uk/acatalog/Moisture_Absorbers.html

Those 'pull over' style bike tents like the cycledome are okay for cover from rain and snow, but moisture wise my mates was dripping, and you cant really put the water-crystals in their as theres simply too much moisture in something thats not relatively sealed like a crate/shed. Probably cheaper to get a good cover - but obviously neither will benefit security if thats an issue for you.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why not just get a shed with a wide door?
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Re: Any experiences with motorcycle sheds? Reply with quote
BikinChainz wrote:
...I stumbled upon this site: https://www.motorcyclesheds.net/...
I'm looking at the CycleDome one because it's pretty cheap and looks good but would like someone elses opinion on this beforehand....

Thinking I'm wondering if this isn't a stealth spam for this as American link on this UK based site.

However, if I'm wrong, cheaper alternatives to the BikeBarn design are on eBay.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
-Matt- wrote:
I've had mine in essentially a small shipping crate for 6 months over winter in the past - benefits are it was already obviously very reinforced so with some good locks and internal anchor etc i'd say it was as safe as it could get.

Negatives was condensation was quite bad at times, but if you whack a load of these or similar around the thing on shelves or whatever it will take a large chunk of it out
https://www.homecareessentials.co.uk/acatalog/Moisture_Absorbers.html

Those 'pull over' style bike tents like the cycledome are okay for cover from rain and snow, but moisture wise my mates was dripping, and you cant really put the water-crystals in their as theres simply too much moisture in something thats not relatively sealed like a crate/shed. Probably cheaper to get a good cover - but obviously neither will benefit security if thats an issue for you.
A shipping crate sounds pretty good to be honest..

The reason I want one of those pull over ones is because I travel a lot and it would be really comfortable to take on the road, I think.

I will get a dedicated garage eventually so as a temporary thing with an alarm as recommended above, it seems like a good plan.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikinChainz wrote:
The reason I want one of those pull over ones is because I travel a lot and it would be really comfortable to take on the road, I think.

Can only go off the one i've seen which my mate has - but i wouldn't consider it easy to put up. Its 'easy' in terms of complexity, but faffing around putting up the strutts and laying the fabric over etc in rain/dark and so forth would be like trying to erect a camping tent, but wearing your bike gear Razz Maybe you can get pop-out ones though i'm not sure, if its for travelling mainly there may be more specific travel-tents that are suitable.

Personally a big-ass almax chain and something you can't move it from whether lamp-post or ground-anchor is the only real safe bet IMO.

I use a ground anchor/almax, alarm and alarmed-disc lock cheapy on mine. An alarm is a good deterant and may alert people, but even in a built up area the majority of people won't be arsed to get out of bed, and the ones that do will probably not do anything as thats just how people are Rolling Eyes Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Re: Any experiences with motorcycle sheds? Reply with quote
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BikinChainz wrote:
...I stumbled upon this site: https://www.motorcyclesheds.net/...
I'm looking at the CycleDome one because it's pretty cheap and looks good but would like someone elses opinion on this beforehand....

Thinking I'm wondering if this isn't a stealth spam for this as American link on this UK based site.

However, if I'm wrong, cheaper alternatives to the BikeBarn design are on eBay.

It's just the only resource I found on sheds in general, Amazon ship to EU too I think.

I'm talking about all of these pullover things, not just the ones on that site though, want an overall opinion on them, whether something like that is worth buying or not.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
-Matt- wrote:
BikinChainz wrote:
The reason I want one of those pull over ones is because I travel a lot and it would be really comfortable to take on the road, I think.

Can only go off the one i've seen which my mate has - but i wouldn't consider it easy to put up. Its 'easy' in terms of complexity, but faffing around putting up the strutts and laying the fabric over etc in rain/dark and so forth would be like trying to erect a camping tent, but wearing your bike gear Razz Maybe you can get pop-out ones though i'm not sure, if its for travelling mainly there may be more specific travel-tents that are suitable.

Personally a big-ass almax chain and something you can't move it from whether lamp-post or ground-anchor is the only real safe bet IMO.

I use a ground anchor/almax, alarm and alarmed-disc lock cheapy on mine. An alarm is a good deterant and may alert people, but even in a built up area the majority of people won't be arsed to get out of bed, and the ones that do will probably not do anything as thats just how people are Rolling Eyes Thumbs Down

Mainly worried about the rain, snow and stuff like that not just theft, my bike has a ridiculously loud alarm.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rain and snow generally won't do much harm if the bikes in relative good condition - no more harm that storing under a condensation filled cover anyway. I'm equally paranoid about the effects of damp etc hence leave mine in a nice garage - currently 60 miles away from the home until i get something suitable sorted out locally Brick Wall

Thieves though are a constant risk, don't under-estimate it whereever you live, its better to wake up to a rusty bike than an empty space Pale

There are various videos around on the web of how quickly two guys can pull 10 grand heavy bikes into a van in a busy street and be away with it, regardless of any alarm or pedestrians Thumbs Down

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PostPosted: 13:07 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Re: Any experiences with motorcycle sheds? Reply with quote
BikinChainz wrote:
...I'm talking about all of these pullover things, not just the ones on that site though, want an overall opinion on them, whether something like that is worth buying or not.

Worth getting if nothing else can be had but at a static location.
For travelling bike cover more versatile.

However, depends what you mean by travelling. If setting up a base at location for some time then maybe. Otherwise a better cover such as the Oxford Rainex or Stormex (reading thread on here I got the impression not much difference between them) would be better option.

These covers are breathable. The bikebarn stuff should be but you'd probably get condensation on the inside. The covers have a lining, this should wick the moisture away (you need to check on the cover).
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
-Matt- wrote:
Rain and snow generally won't do much harm if the bikes in relative good condition - no more harm that storing under a condensation filled cover anyway. I'm equally paranoid about the effects of damp etc hence leave mine in a garage nice - currently 60 miles away from the home until i get something suitable sorted out locally Brick Wall

Thieves though are a constant risk, don't under-estimate it whereever you live, its better to wake up to a rusty bike than an empty space Pale

There are various videos around on the web of how quickly two guys can pull 10 grand heavy bikes into a van in a busy street and be away with it, regardless of any alarm or pedestrians Thumbs Down

Any links to these videos? Razz
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikinChainz wrote:
Any links to these videos? Razz

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An alarm is definately worthwhile as a deterant as it can and will deter a lot of people - but if they're quick enough and prepared - a few seconds noise until its shut in a van won't do much to save your bike.

A good chain won't save it by any means, but taking a huge angle grinder to it will make a lot more noise for a lot longer Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oughta get myself a heavier bike to be safe instead, haha
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikinChainz wrote:
Oughta get myself a heavier bike to be safe instead, haha

Chav quantity:Bike weight ratio will always sway in their favour Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 10 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
-Matt- wrote:
BikinChainz wrote:
Oughta get myself a heavier bike to be safe instead, haha
Chav quantity:Bike weight ratio will always sway in their favour Crying or Very sad

Once in the car came across biker who'd been trying to get his knee down on one of the local roundabouts. He'd lost it and bike flipped over kerb and down grass bank.

Stopped to help him out and lift bike up. Some 600 sports IIRC. I was used to my lardy tourers. Lifting this 600 was like handling a bicycle in comparison. I thought then no wonder they get so easily nicked as would be so little effort to carry into a van.

BTW if touring and you really feel the need for a ground anchor to take with you for on grass/soil there's the screw in type. For example click here.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 11 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
-Matt- wrote:
BikinChainz wrote:
Oughta get myself a heavier bike to be safe instead, haha

Chav quantity:Bike weight ratio will always sway in their favour Crying or Very sad

Aaah true that...

Anyway, I decided to order the CycleDome thingie, a solid alarm and a ground anchor.

Hopefully will serve me well Smile
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Went with the CycleDome and it's serving me till this day.

Love it so much so far ( Thumbs Up

Might post pics if I get my camera back, lost it last Friday Neutral
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https://www.asgardsss.co.uk/asgard/admin/Uploads/MotorbikeShedDC.jpg

This is what my mates got ...amazing bit of kit and has managed to stop multiple thieves who tried to get at his SP2 and 600RR last month.
Keep dry in there and if you only have one bike in there then there is enough room to work on it in the shelter.
We use a little oil heater and it gets toasty in 10 mins... perfect for doing the boring jobs like valve clearances over winter haha.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just look for a shed on your local gumtree or freecycle. I spent £500 on a shed then realised I could have got one for free to uplift off gumtree.
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