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PostPosted: 16:26 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Passed - IAM Bike Test Reply with quote

Not sure if this is the right area to post this but...

Passed my IAM Advanced Bike Test this morning, woo hoo!!!
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Testing a massive and substantial change of the editing policy here on bikechatforums.com.

Apparently now you cannot significantly change posts that are over 24 hours old, and I'm seeing if this is true and to what extent.

Thank you all for listening to this random rubbish.

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PostPosted: 16:37 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

well done , there insurance will try to beat any price you get for a car or bike or house Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheCatSatOnTheMat wrote:
Well done. Got your pipe and slippers on order yet? Wink

Planning on going for your Enhanced Advanced?


They are on order, along with my Pan European Smile

I volunteer as a blood bike rider, so had to obtain my advanced test pass for that Smile

Yeah I have had a look at the Masters course but got a lot on my plate at the moment so may give it 6 months then have a crack Smile
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
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I volunteer as a blood bike rider, so had to obtain my advanced test pass for that Smile


You can get paid for doing that and not require the qualification.

Pan european? You need a BMW adventure bike like the other IAM guys! Laughing


Yeah they do seem to love the Beemers!
I'll stick to my VFR thanks Smile

How can you get paid for it?
I ride for SERV Wessex and have not heard of positions doing it as a paid role...
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy S wrote:
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You can get paid for doing that and not require the qualification.


How can you get paid for it?
I ride for SERV Wessex and have not heard of positions doing it as a paid role...


I think he's referring to setting yourself up as a private medical courier and doing it off your own back for money... But then again the only way to have an advantage against the blood bikers on their own turf is to do it under emergency conditions with blues and sirens. But seen as the SERV and their ilk manage to do the same thing without for supplies that aren't medically urgent that's neither likely nor justifiable in a court of law.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Passed - IAM Bike Test Reply with quote

Andy S wrote:
...Passed my IAM Advanced Bike Test this morning, woo hoo!!!

Any chance of a quick rundown of what's actually involved and how much training (observed and your own) it took?

I'm thinking of things I could do on the bike this summer. Local IAM group meets Saturday mornings which has always been a problem as I usually have stuff to do then.

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PostPosted: 18:41 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im thinking of doing the IAM in the spring to improve my fast out of town riding. Would it be good for that?
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one Smile I volunteer for Freewheelers, the blood bikes in Bath/Bristol, so might see you some time if you're handing anything over to come further in this direction
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Passed - IAM Bike Test Reply with quote

map wrote:
Andy S wrote:
...Passed my IAM Advanced Bike Test this morning, woo hoo!!!

Any chance of a quick rundown of what's actually involved and how much training (observed and your own) it took?

I'm thinking of things I could do on the bike this summer. Local IAM group meets Saturday mornings which has always been a problem as I usually have stuff to do then.

Thanks Thumbs Up


The way my local group works is that you're assigned an observer, and then arrange rideouts to suit both of you. If you can't do weekends, you can request an observer who has free time during the week. (We did a few hours riding each time, but sometimes went for a day trip to the coast etc if the weather was good)

It's much more like just going for a ride with a mate than formal training. You agree a route between you and at the end they score you on different aspects of your riding, giving you areas to work on. Total amount of sessions you'll need is up to you and your observer.

Before the test they'll ask a senior observer for a second opinion on your riding, and the final test tends to be with an ex police rider or similar - still felt fairly relaxed compared to a DSA driving test.

I know some groups do a free introduction ride to see if it's for you before you commit fully, so might be worth asking the question.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am doing my IAM's observed rides at the moment, how many rides did you do before you were ready?
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The999Kid wrote:


I think he's referring to setting yourself up as a private medical courier and doing it off your own back for money...


Thing is the whole time an area is covered by SERV, why would a hospital pay a private courier when they could use SERV for free?
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

civvy wrote:
Nice one Smile I volunteer for Freewheelers, the blood bikes in Bath/Bristol, so might see you some time if you're handing anything over to come further in this direction


Awesome Smile
You never know, we may well meet!
I did a run to Warminster the other week to hand over a sample to one of your guys going on to Bristol and I took a sample from Dorchester to near Yeovil where one of the freewheelers met me too Smile
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Passed - IAM Bike Test Reply with quote

civvy wrote:
map wrote:

Any chance of a quick rundown of what's actually involved and how much training (observed and your own) it took?

I'm thinking of things I could do on the bike this summer. Local IAM group meets Saturday mornings which has always been a problem as I usually have stuff to do then.

Thanks Thumbs Up


The way my local group works is that you're assigned an observer, and then arrange rideouts to suit both of you. If you can't do weekends, you can request an observer who has free time during the week. (We did a few hours riding each time, but sometimes went for a day trip to the coast etc if the weather was good)

It's much more like just going for a ride with a mate than formal training. You agree a route between you and at the end they score you on different aspects of your riding, giving you areas to work on. Total amount of sessions you'll need is up to you and your observer.

Before the test they'll ask a senior observer for a second opinion on your riding, and the final test tends to be with an ex police rider or similar - still felt fairly relaxed compared to a DSA driving test.

I know some groups do a free introduction ride to see if it's for you before you commit fully, so might be worth asking the question.


Yep civvy has said most of it really.
You give a "donation" to your observer to cover their fuel cost.
Mine was £15 each time, the amount is normally set by the local group you are signed up to.

My "mock test" was taken by a senior observer and they then say if you are ready for the real test.
Was a bit more formal than my observed rides, but still friendly, much like the actual test.

I only had 2 observed rides of about 40 miles each, plus my mock test.
That said, i was fortunate enough to have been taught to ride by my father who is a retired police biker, so I had the foundations in place already.


They say about 6 observed rides is average then a mock test.

I enjoyed the experience and definitely learnt a few things that have made me a safer, smoother and therefore faster rider.

Anyone who hasnt done some sort of advanced training, and claims they dont need it, is wrong.

The IAM deffo has the grandad slippers and pipe image, and I won't be active member! But the training and skills are very useful.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

raesewell wrote:
I am doing my IAM's observed rides at the moment, how many rides did you do before you were ready?


I only had 2 observed rides of about 40 miles each, plus my mock test.
That said, i was fortunate enough to have been taught to ride by my father who is a retired police biker, so I had the foundations in place already.


They say about 6 observed rides is average then a mock test.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just doing the IAM thing with TVAM. I'm quite a new rider (though with almost 4,000 miles under my belt since passing DAS in November I'm gaining experience rapidly), and am finding it invaluable in getting me up to speed. My observer is showing me lots of tips that would have taken ages to pick up through just riding, and every month there is a big meeting where those riders who haven't yet passed can go out with a different observer to get a different view on their riding. I've got RoADAR Gold in car driving, so knew the value of advanced training.

As for pipe and slippers, there is a definite bias towards making "good progress" - just doing it safely and considering what you are doing at all times rather than just pegging the throttle and praying. My group also has specific skills courses for faster riding, such as "look, lean and roll" for cornering and advanced braking (done on a local RAF runway).
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Done Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:


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PostPosted: 02:58 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Passed - IAM Bike Test Reply with quote

map wrote:
Andy S wrote:
...Passed my IAM Advanced Bike Test this morning, woo hoo!!!

Any chance of a quick rundown of what's actually involved and how much training (observed and your own) it took?
+1

Mini review of the whole thing would be great if you have time. I tryed to get involved with freewheelers 2 years ago but found out you needed to be 24 for their insurance cover after getting all informed and excited to do it Rolling Eyes Just turned 24 this January so its an option for me again now if I can get the time free for the training Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:50 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked in to it ages ago, and it seemed to be too money oriented. Pay us £xxx for a Pass and then keep paying £xx just so you can keep calling yourself an IAM member (and don't worry about actually turning up for refresher training or doing bugger all else - as long as you keep paying us the wonga you're an advanced driver for life)... miss a subscription payment and you're shit again.

Going to sound almightily bigheaded, but I know I could pass it, so why bother paying to do so? Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your riding is perfect in every way then there is probably little point.

I know that as a car driver, with the best part of 20 years experience of driving silly mileages all over the world, I learnt stuff that made my driving smoother and safer. I thought it was worthwhile having somebody validate what I was doing, as it was so long since I'd had anyone look at my driving critically.
That was with RoADAR, and I didn't bother keeping up the membership as it didn't seem to offer ongoing value.

Keeping up the membership may save money on insurance (though I found no real difference in my car insurance - I am paying sub-£200 for an XJ8 though, so probably not much movement possible). My local IAM
group is also like a huge social club - regular runs of different levels (social, progressive etc.), holidays, courses etc., plus you can go through further training. I've only been to monthly meetings in December and January so far, well into 3 figures are turning up even in winter so there must be something worthwhile.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
Going to sound almightily bigheaded, but I know I could pass it, so why bother paying to do so? Laughing


Have you had any formal training since your standard bike test?
If not, this statement alone proves you wouldn't pass it.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Passed - IAM Bike Test Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
+1

Mini review of the whole thing would be great if you have time. I tryed to get involved with freewheelers 2 years ago but found out you needed to be 24 for their insurance cover after getting all informed and excited to do it Rolling Eyes Just turned 24 this January so its an option for me again now if I can get the time free for the training Thumbs Up


I will type something up on my lunch break for you Smile
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:


Going to sound almightily bigheaded, but I know I could pass it with a hundred hours of training ....


EFA

I do have an advanced driving qualification and I KNOW I couldn't just walk up to an IAM examiner and expect to pass on a bike. I do want to do it but my local group only meet on a Saturday and I seem to work 4/5 Saturdays Embarassed
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