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TurbodTurtle
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Short Boots Reply with quote

Not sure if this has already been covered, my search box doesn't seem to work and just gives me blank results.

What are peoples opinions on short boots? What kind of level of protection do they offer?

I'd probably look at something like the Alpinestars range or Sidi streetburners etc that come up over the ankle. Has anyone got any experience with them? I'm not a fan of the longer boots so wondered if these are any good.

Where do people buy stuff from? I used to use Hein Gericke, but with the recent close down looks like I won't be anymore, JSacessories seem to have a limited range. I'd like to go in really and try things on.
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wr6133
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you pass Swindon go to the Mega Motorcycle Store to try stuff on they have a pretty huge range of everything
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recommend Akito Miami boots.
I like them as I can actually walk around when off the bike ok.
I originally got them as I needed boots, it was summer and they were cheap and cheerful.
First pair lasted about 3 years and that included winter riding (you just need good thermal socks and insoles). Sole came away.

I liked them so much I got another pair at the NEC show (possibly J&S, I forget) and my daughter has a pair for on her scooter (but only for winter - go figure).

Next pair I'll probably get online depending on the price as I already know what size fits (hint: find a shop to try on first).

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PostPosted: 18:16 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers I live in Cambridge but shortly moving to Maidstone if anyone knows anywhere down here.

Just seen these boots, would be perfect for work as I can keep them on all day: https://www.topgearsuperstore.com/motorcycle-boots/waterproof-motorcycle-boots/richa-slick-short-waterproof-boots-black.html

If I didn't get them, i'd go for something like this: https://www.topgearsuperstore.com/mega-clearance-sale/motorbike-boots/alpinestars-s-mx-5-boots-white-black.html

I have some boots at the minute, buffalo ones i got from Hein Gericke which are really comfy, but they are so thick I can't feel the gear selector and sometimes I cock up changing gears becuase of my boot.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't like to go that short - prefer a decent overlap between boot and trousers, so if I do end up sliding down the road there's a good bit of *stuff* to protect me trousers ride up a bit.

I'm thinking of a work colleague that was hit by a car while wearing jeans and trainers.
Neither of those themselves were a big factor in the lack of protection they offered to what they covered - basically his lower leg was dragged along the floor and he lost a couple of inches of bone.
Could just as easily have happened with short boots and bike trousers, but I don't reckon would have with longer boots.

I at least go for army-boot length. They are fine to walk around in (well, even the goretex ones are quite 'hard') and anecdotally I'd say they offer decent enough protection for daily riding - I've crashed in them a good number of times.
I've known people to be shelf-stacking in a supermarket day-in day-out in motorcycle race boots (then moan that they wore out quickly Rolling Eyes) and I've done a good bit of walking (as well as some rock climbing!) in Tech 10s - but both situations are a bit stupid. In my case it was the only footwear I had.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the summer when I'm in kevlar jeans and a short jacket, I wear short boots.

All other times, I go long. I'm a bit biaised because when I was younger I rode like an idiot so crashed a lot. These days, I don't crash but still keep my protection habits from when I used to regularly bounce off the tarmac.

It's all about riding style, mileage and location. If someone rides it like they stole it, does serious mileage and weaves through London traffic like a ferret up a drainpipe, they'd have to be stupid to wear short boots.

For occasional summertime use, why not?
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:

For occasional summertime use, why not?

On that; I've happily ridden in shorts, t-shirt and no gloves if I'm making an effort not to crash.
(The cops that stopped me for tail light out/tax not showing on system were less impressed by my attire.)
I WAS actually wearing the boots, but only because I wear them 95% of the time I'm wearing footwear anyway Smile. I'd as well wear trainers in such a situation.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
...I've happily ridden in shorts, t-shirt and no gloves if I'm making an effort not to crash.
(The cops that stopped me for tail light out/tax not showing on system were less impressed by my attire.)
I WAS actually wearing the boots, but only because I wear them 95% of the time I'm wearing footwear anyway Smile. I'd as well wear trainers in such a situation.


Back in the day, played club rugby in the S of France for a few seasons. Pre-season, the training pitches were like concrete due to 35 degree heat and for some sadistic reason, they put sand in the grass. Even with vass, tape etc..., somehow I'd always end up being sandpapered and waking up in the morning and trying to stretch out bloody, scabby legs was no fun.

Today, there is no way would I swap kevlar jeans for shorts. After 3 years of blood and pain, I've had enough.

But it's a personal thing - if someone wants to risk it, why not? We're all adults and take our own decisions on the level of risk we're happy with. H@ll, I know a gay guy who has unprotected but thinks a motorbike's too dangerous. Maybe I should point him in the way of a cruiser...
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 29 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:

Today, there is no way would I swap kevlar jeans for shorts. After 3 years of blood and pain, I've had enough.

As I pointed out to the cop, the cyclists were often making a similar pace to me wearing lycra at best, (I wasn't making TOO much of a fuss because I knew he did have a legitimate point about my chain guard despite it passing and MOT without one).

But - as above - I'd personally see kevlar jeans with short boots as opening up similar (though more limited area) problems to shorts alone.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 30 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend had a set of short Alpinestar boots, Loves them. Uses them everyday for over a year and have kept his feet dry since Day 1. He wears them like trainers. The one downside he found is that the grip on the soles are completely worn smooth but i'd guess that would happen with most as they don't really have much grip to speak off from new.
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PostPosted: 03:01 - 30 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used these for the past 4years, they last 2yrs and im due a 3rd pair now.

https://www.getgeared.co.uk/ALPINESTARS_Ridge_WP_Motorcycle_Boots

Top notch, comfy and waterprooof.
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PostPosted: 04:59 - 30 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always use longer race-style boots personally. Feel a lot better having my shins and calf area covered properly.

Theyre just as stiff to walk in as the short boots for me generally, and tuck inside bike trousers fine (although i do ususally wear them over leathers). Dont really have anything against short boots, just don't see a need for them for how i ride. I usually take trainers in a backpack to change into if i'm walking far off the bike also.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 30 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going to be doing any racing, crazy riding or much filtering so I think i'll be fine. I'm still learning so will be going slow for a little while.

I am thinking of going for these:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/151217334894?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95

They look nice, good amount of protection and waterproof. I'm going to try and get into a shop in maidstone (I think there are 3 I know of) at the weekend and see if I can find some to try on.

Thanks for the help Cool
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 30 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you catch a flicked up stone in the shin whilst hammering along, you'll REALLY wish you'd bought proper boots. The other 99.99% of the time, no problem!

I do find that the ankle protection seems to be a bit lacking in most of the short boots I've seen. Mine are more like chunky trainers and I don't wear them very often.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 30 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashley6 wrote:
I'm not going to be doing any racing, crazy riding or much filtering so I think i'll be fine. I'm still learning so will be going slow for a little while.
They may well be fine - i'm not trying to put you off them or anything, but don't under-estimate the damage you can do going slow. People going bicycle speed can easily snap bones if they come off a certain way.

Monkeypony wrote:
I do find that the ankle protection seems to be a bit lacking in most of the short boots I've seen
That and the lack of shin protection is why I avoid them - Not much to stop your ankle snapping in those. That being said though, a lot of full length race style boots don't have much to stop it snapping either. I use ones like this with an ankle brace. There is still risk it could transfer the break to further up your leg in some accidents I expect, but ankles are particularly vulnerable.https://images.esellerpro.com/2189/I/77/alpinestars-smx-1.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 30 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear these along with a pair of long sealskinz socks to keep my feet warm and dry in winter. Comfy enough to walk around in all day if needed.
My current pair are almost 10yrs old and there's no reason they wont last a few more years, although the soles are getting a bit on the thin side.
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