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PostPosted: 09:06 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Operation YewTree...Just for Celebs ? Reply with quote

In the light of the Jimmy savile operation yewtree thing it got me thinking.

Do the police really want to hear from "normal" people who were sexually assauted years and years ago or are they just wanting accusations about celebrities??

When I was about 18 (around that age give or take) a work colleague of some advancing years or I thought she was old at the time probably about 50 ish. Well she used to be abit familier with you young lads at the firm, this particular day she collared me in the little staff room. She came over and said something about wanting to teach me a thing or two and then grabbed my crotch and arse.
I was shocked and told her to bugger off which she did and it never happened again though I know she moved on to another young lad who might have been into her for all I know.

So by rights that was a sexual assualt, which going by media reports is similar to what Dave Lee Travis is up in court for at the moment.

If I were to report this would the police take it seriously or would they find an excuse not to do anything? Probably hard to find this woman, I've not seen her for nearly 20 years and don't know if she's dead or alive.

Interesting to think about it though because this type of thing was happening day in day out years ago. Most people like me put it down to experience and are not scared by the event. It was just one of those things I laughed about with mates at the time. Though I did feel abit sick about it on the quiet.

If all the people groped in work or pubs ect over say the last 50 years came forward the police would be inundated and I'm sure the government would step in and some sort of American type statute of limitations would be implemented.

For the record, I believe that those who were raping and seriously assualting people and those messing with kids should be hunted down regardless of time.

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PostPosted: 09:34 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you serious?

The police, in general, do not want to hear about any crime, unless there's a quick and easy way to sanction it, whether by prosecution or "caution".

Can you imagine what thousands or tens of thousands of ancient, "prove it, copper" cases would do do their stats? Some ACPO Plc ranks might have to briefly downgrade to 5 Series Beemers for a year!
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you work at the BBC?

If they're a celebrity or not doesn't matter; it's only worth reporting if they're rich.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Are you serious?

The police, in general, do not want to hear about any crime, unless there's a quick and easy way to sanction it, whether by prosecution or "caution".

Can you imagine what thousands or tens of thousands of ancient, "prove it, copper" cases would do do their stats? Some ACPO Plc ranks might have to briefly downgrade to 5 Series Beemers for a year!


Hahaha Laughing

That's my point really, they don't want to know unless it's a high profile makes the poilice look like they are really serious about crime type case.

Interesting though. There must be literally thousands upon thousands of people wondering whether they will get a knock on the door from the cops saying you groped your secretary in 1967.

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PostPosted: 12:10 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groping your secretary was socially acceptable back then I expect Laughing It either resulted in a slap or expectation of accompanying on the next business trip and a stay in a posh hotel! Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of our teachers a person in school was a big perve and used to touch us up!
you must be real if i am gonna complain or report it, i was 15 & 16yrs getting touch by a grown woman it even though what she was doing was so wrong.

one time i caught her and 2 of my mates having a good feel up in her office and was like nope to join in when asked so i carried on back to class with my hand in my pocket holding my bag to my left side hopping that no one would ask me when i walked back into the class room, if that had happened now would have reported to teachers and mum
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fozzym
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Groping your secretary was socially acceptable back then I expect Laughing It either resulted in a slap or expectation of accompanying on the next business trip and a stay in a posh hotel! Laughing


Yes but it isn't now and the crown are prosecuting poeple based on todays values. Hence DLT is up in court for touching up staff at the bbc and women at top of the pops.
Ok at the moment it's only people with a "profile" which is why I posed the question.

If you you walked into a police station and made an accusation that you were groped in 19whenever they would have a duty to atleast look into it. Or that's how the police are coming across when talking about operation YewTree.

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PostPosted: 13:22 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
one of our PE teachers a northern lady in Bishop Thomas Grant School was a big perve and used to touch us up!
you must be mad if i am gonna complain or report it, i was 15 & 16yrs getting touch by a grown woman i enjoyed it even though what she was doing was so wrong.

one time i caught her and 2 of my mates having a good feel up in her office and was too shy to join in when asked so i carried on back to class with my left hand in my pocket holding my errection to my left side hopping that no one would notice when i walked back into the class room, if that had happened now would have dropped my trouser and boxers got my cock out and started touch her big juciy tits!


I'm not asking you to compain about it, though if this teacher was doing what you said without much regard then what else were they getting up to?

I'd never think of reporting what happened to me, I laugh about it.

My point is, would the cops be interested in things like you and I experienced because we are just "normal" folk and it was years ago.

Though I'm sure they would be interested in a teacher having sexual contact with young boys and rightly so. I wouldn't want to think my boy was being put in that situation by a teacher we trust to look after his interests.

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PostPosted: 14:18 - 31 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

fozzym wrote:
My point is, would the cops be interested in things like you and I experienced because we are just "normal" folk and it was years ago.
I'm sure they'd ''investigate it'', but as for it going anywhere, doubtful in most cases if its just one persons word against another going that far back. The reason yewtrees got so far is there seems to of been large numbers of people that were, or claim at least to of been sexually assaulted that didn't speak out at the time due to fear of peoples fame making their accusations fall on deaf ears etc, so its all erupted like a pressure cooker at once giving them a nice pot of evidence/court time to mull over.

What I find more interesting is the double standards - male teachers having relationships with female students for example get crucified, but their female counterparts usually get a slap on the wrist and Tut Tut
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 13 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another one gets found not guilty......perhaps operation yew tree isn't really serving anyone?

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PostPosted: 14:26 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was pointed out elsewhere; there was a public (ok, tabloid) clamouring claiming the Police hadn't done enough with Savile and should sort it out generally.
Now they're doing what they were being criticised for not doing before (quite possibly because it would be far too costly, for a start) and are being criticised now for spending too much money.

Such is the way of a tabloid democracy.
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