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doggone
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 02 Feb 2014    Post subject: Pirate Bay court case NL Reply with quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25943716

What a surprise, blocking didn't make any difference - so they have to allow them again.
Was anyone really surprised, and will the same happen here?
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 02 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: Pirate Bay court case NL Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25943716

What a surprise, blocking didn't make any difference - so they have to allow them again.
Was anyone really surprised, and will the same happen here?


Nope, why would the UK gov retract this? the possibilities to misuse this bit of legislation are endless. They can block sites and fuck people over with impunity now. "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!"
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But the appeals court heard that web users were circumventing the ban by either finding alternative ways to access the site - such as using a VPN (virtual private network) to mask their location - or by using other file-sharing services.
Shows the legal system and their copyright goons up as the clowns they are Rolling Eyes

They could of paid a couple of chimps to come to that conclusion before spending hundreds of millions in legal costs.

If they want to 'protect' their media start pricing it reasonably.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:

If they want to 'protect' their media start pricing it reasonably.


Nice idea in theory, but it still wouldn't work - You'll always get the people who wouldn't even pay for it if it was £1.[/quote

Maybe they want it for less than £1?
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would, definately, someone will always want it for free.

But asking people to pay often more than an hours salarly for an hours 'entertainment' thats rarely even that entertaining is optimistic at best, verging on insulting.

Things should be priced with a bit of relevance to the quality of the product/production costs. Primark sells shit, for shit, and pays shit for them to be produced. A shit movie pays multi-millions often to the actors, has a medicore budget, yet still expects full-whack at cinema and DVD when it retails.
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This it the issue for me - i watched 12 years a slave tonight ironically, really decent film - but I didn't pay for it.

I'd be happy to donate-x to it if there was a system set up to easily allow such things, and subsequently show the breakdown of payment to everyone involved in it - not just the big actors, that justify the big advertisements, that justify the big sponsors etc.

To me films and music are no different to art - anyone can look at it - if you enjoy it enough to 'own' a piece you will pay for it as you see fit.

Until then though I will continue being an industry destroying criminal of epic proportions I guess Thinking
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
But the very same logic can be applied to absolutely everything.

When you go and buy your salad box from Asda, you don't see the breakdown between the supermarket, the supplier, the worker who prepped the salad, the company who supplied the box, etc.
I guess it depends at what point you begin to sell-out your morals Razz Food and other 'essentials' as I see it I will pay for regardless to some extent, as there doesn't seem to be other easy alternatives. Movies and the more optional things - If possible I will avoid paying for, to some extent anyway, until I feel they justify it.
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PostPosted: 02:37 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: Pirate Bay court case NL Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25943716


Bwahahaaa that's awesome!
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is, the Dutch government are using logic when they make decisions.

Maybe the British government should do the same.
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 05 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Shows the legal system and their copyright goons up as the clowns they are Rolling Eyes


The Dutch have some excellent examples;

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Anti-piracy group BREIN is caught up in a huge copyright scandal in the Netherlands. A musician who composed a track for use at a local film festival later found it being used without permission in an anti-piracy campaign. He is now claiming at least a million euros for the unauthorized distribution of his work on DVDs. To make matters even worse, a board member of a royalty collection agency offered to help the composer to recoup the money, but only if he received 33% of the loot.

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