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stuartt
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: HUSABERG TE 300 Reply with quote

does anyone own a HUSABERG TE 300 ?

i'm wanting to get some sort of bike for road & off road use but not sure what .

does anyone know if the husaberg is a reliable bike ?

and would a 300 two stroke have plenty power or would a 450 or 500 four stroke be better ?

thanks
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Know nothing of that bike, but not heard many "reliable" quotes on husaberg. I'd stick to my opinions that the KTM 300 EXC is ideal.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ktm exc 500 did cross my mind to .

the 1st bike i thought about was a cr 500 until a few people said i'd never have my hand out of my pocket Sad

ideally i want a bike that doesn't need constant money spent on it .
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

300 EXC or DRZ400 in my opinion, but the EXC is more "fun"
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

would the 500 exc not be better than the 300 exc ?
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuartt wrote:
would the 500 exc not be better than the 300 exc ?


4 stroke rather than 2.

Would prefer a decent 300.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks paddy , i didn't realize the 300 exc was a 2 stroke , any idea how often the valves need checked on the 300 exc if its not getting raced ?
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuartt wrote:
thanks paddy , i didn't realize the 300 exc was a 2 stroke , any idea how often the valves need checked on the 300 exc if its not getting raced ?


There are no valves on the 300 Wink

On the 500, or any 4 stroke competition bike, you'd be looking at hours rather than miles. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

the honda dealer said the 450 crf needed the valves done every 15 hrs costing £100 , that means i'd have to fork out £100 every 2-4 weeks ! not to good .
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could adjust yourself Wink

That would be 15 hours competition wise I reckon though. I'd probably use till the motor got a little louder.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Know nothing of that bike, but not heard many "reliable" quotes on husaberg. I'd stick to my opinions that the KTM 300 EXC is ideal.


So this.

Just a few dirty pics of the 300 EXC keep making my knob twitch.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any experience offroad? Husabergs TE range are some of the purest enduro bikes you can own, Graham Jarvis has ridden them with great success in Extreme Enduro. KTM used to own Husaberg, but from what I gather they have now been sold to Husqvarna who are taking over/rebranding.

You wont go far wrong with a 2 stroke Husaberg, very well specced and reliable bikes. Some of their 4T range has questionable reliability, namely the 650's.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not do what me and Dischord have done, 200 EXC, far too lulzy for anything other than being complete tools on. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've no experience offroad at all , i ride a busa & rocket . the busa has been off road a wee bit at slow speed but thats it .

i've wanted a off road bike for a while now .

i went to see about trading in my rocket for a 450 crf , the dealer offered me 7.5k for my mint 2012 rocket roadster , i'd rather keep it than let it go for that .

i'll prob just wait till i've got the cash then get something rather than sell the rocket , the busa is a bike i'll never sell Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just grab a cheap off roader, my KTM was ~£900. You'll find a few like that, even a TTR250 or something, give yourself some starting steps before paying outright for a newer one. Would be wasteful IMO.

Something between £500 and £800, give it a few months, if you don't like, sell it on. You'll not lose money.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats prob the wisest thing to do paddy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Husaberg TE300 is basically a KTM300 EXC.

Oh, there's a few bits and pieces different, but same basic engine and suspension. HOWEVER, suspect the big thing ....
Husaberg has ... Blue Plastics, KTM has Orange.

Paddy has found while I always recommend the 250/300 over the 200 for new riders - the bigger bikes are actually a lot more docile and easy to ride.

For on road, the 4 strokes do have some advantages.
The big advantage the 4 strokes have off road is engine braking - going down a hill you can knock it down a gear and don't have to modulate the rear brake (which can be awkward while keeping your weight back).
The 2 strokes advantages are less maintenance, lighter and less rotating mass too means they tend to be flickable. The enduro 2 strokes tend to work a bit better on motorcross tracks too. Even compared to a 500 4 stroke, the 300 2 stroke I'd say generally has a flatter delivery with more low end power.

KTM still own Husaberg.
While Husky seems to be a bit of a hot potato at the moment and most of their (4 stroke) bikes are basically BMWs, though they're no longer owned by them.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 2014 Husaberg will be celebrating not only it's 25th anniversary but it will be the last year of the brand. In Jan. of 2013 Stefan Pierer, the current CEO of KTM Sportmotorcycle AG and his company Pierer Industries AG purchased Husqvarna AG from BMW. As of October 2013 the two companies combined both Husaberg and Husqvarna to form the new company Husqvarna Sportmotorcycle GmbH. They will be using Husaberg's technology while keeping the more iconic brand name of Husqvarna. The new bikes will be using the original colors of Husqvarna blue, yellow and white

That was off Wiki Thumbs Up It looks like the new 'Husabergs' are being rebranded as Husqvarna but yeah KTM still technically own it all! I must say they look fantastic though -

https://www.mxlarge.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/husky.jpg
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That IS basically a KTM Laughing Looks tasty though... soo tasty.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know which engine the 4 stroke uses? (BMW or KTM, or even an older Husky?)

The 4 stroke engine was always the diffentiating factor with the Husabergs.
Initially because they power with hand-grenade reliability AND went up to 650cc in competition-light guise.

Then, because they were a bit weird...
https://www.motox.com.br/publix/imagens2007/999996686_husa002.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep - they had to do SOMETHING to differentiate them and KTM didn't want to try the radical stuff themselves.

I think it was a mixture of weight centralisation and better clearance at the front.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't their funky lay down cylinder 4stroke motor's all their own work?

I don't think they are Rotax/BMW derived or KTM derived either, although older Husaberg and KTM big motors did look visually similar I think.

It looks more like a 4stroke version of the OSSA motor than anything else! Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their own work; while they had been wholly owned by KTM for some time and most of their bikes used very similar components to KTMs in a lot of places.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This threads a real eye opener Thumbs Up .Now i'll certainly consider a "Hus" if I ever gather enough wonga for a stroker.

Always admired the somewhat quirky lay down setup of that 4stroke Berg motor. But had no idea ktm were owners of the Hus's.

Just looking at it now I notice the oil filter cover looks suprisingly familiar.
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