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Jay89
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: My first (short) tour. 5days Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

This June me and 3 friends are travelling to northern france, we'll be gone 5 days in total and all of us are total novices to touring, never done anything like it before.

We will be camping every night and have tents, sleeping bags etc all sorted but what else will i realistically need? I want to be as light as possible and enjoy the ride but dont want to forget anything! I should say the max miles a day will be around the 200mark with plenty of breaks, no rushing here!

If anyone has any hints, tips or advice then they will all be welcome! Legal requirements? Helpfull knowledge? Thumbs Up

The web is a whole merry-go-round of conflicting stories, its hard to get the facts!

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PostPosted: 18:53 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phrasebook comes in handy if your French is rusty/non-existent
I'm not sure if it's a requirement over there but I'd usually take a small first aid kit (plasters, paracetamol and the like) and a full set of bulbs
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much of northern France is flat and boring with long straight roads that connect towns and cities.

There are some curvy roads in Normandy, and a few in the north east as you head towards Luxembourg and Germany. But there's a whole lot of flat immediately around Calais, towards Paris and beyond.

IMO you have to go down to quite a rural road before you get something interesting to ride.

Personally with only 5 days I'd try and make the Ardennes on the evening / overnight of the start of the trip.

FWIW I've never needed any French. But my interactions are mostly accommodation (staff will have English) and food (menus are generally decipherable from knowledge of fine dining, if nothing else).

Re legal requirements: it makes sense to have spare headlight bulbs, but I don't go much beyond that; other bulbs can be bought, it's no harder to buy things than in the UK, except perhaps on Sundays. I don't have any reflective bibs, extra reflective tape on my helmet, or even a UK sticker. Never had any hassle, even when stopped by the police.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can survive without proper tea, then forget any attempt to cook altogether

So that's waterproofs, tent, sleeping bag, one spare t-shirt... done.
5 days will go so quick you hardly need anything.
Money and/or credit card could be useful.
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Jay89
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

we're heading towards Normandy, hopefully along the coastal roads.

why forget any attempt at cooking? we're taking a mini stove to cook some basics on.

Will need a few tops for the evenings and some jeans im thinking

I'll definitely look into Ardennes though.

The reflective strips interest me because that's where there is a lot of confusion!
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

we're heading towards Normandy, hopefully along the coastal roads.

why forget any attempt at cooking? we're taking a mini stove to cook some basics on.

Will need a few tops for the evenings and some jeans im thinking

I'll definitely look into Ardennes though.

The reflective strips interest me because that's where there is a lot of confusion!
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 03 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay89 wrote:
we're heading towards Normandy, hopefully along the coastal roads.

I took a trip with Advanced Biker to Normandy, went down on the ferry, but took the long way back up through Calais. Was fairly forgettable. Le Havre is worth avoiding, but it's easy to get sucked into it if you don't take the (magnificent) tolled bridge (free for bikes IIRC). My GPS was set to avoid tolls and I ended up on the wrong lane. Cost about 3 hours.

If you're looking for historical crap, you'll find it. Bored me to tears, as my country had no part in that war. The roads are mostly flat, a lot of marshes I recall.

In the summer, there are a lot of French people who temporarily move to camps along the west coast. I don't know what it's like this time of year.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: France Reply with quote

Just go and relax. Riding in France is joy and addictive. Normandy will be a good place to start with all the D-Day landing beaches, Suisse Normandy should give a good days ride.
For a short trip Brittany gets my vote but then I live just outside Plymouth so an overnight ferry gives me an the wife a long weekend.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 04 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay89 wrote:


why forget any attempt at cooking? we're taking a mini stove to cook some basics on.



It's a lot of extra stuff to take, washing up and such too. Rolling Eyes
It's no hardship to buy and eat as you go.

I remember being amazed at a camp site in Dordogne a British couple next plot - they were boiling spuds and cabbage just like back home.
I went to a créperie.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 05 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If any of you have a smartphone, check out what you need to do to use it cheaply abroad. I know vodafone so that eurotraveller thing for £3 per day to be on your usual tariff. It'd be useful to use for internet checking out local stuff, google maps etc.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 05 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may find this useful too https://www.old-gits.org/hints&.htm
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 05 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 to 4 hours riding would get you in the Nurburgring area. Superb local roads. English speaking Germans, great beer and they love motorcycles.
Northern France a bit boring compared to what is available just a few hours inland.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 05 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
Phrasebook comes in handy if your French is rusty/non-existent
I'm not sure if it's a requirement over there but I'd usually take a small first aid kit (plasters, paracetamol and the like) and a full set of bulbs


Have a look at www.roadtrooper.com and download his virgin guide on touring. It is really good and is free.

The guy that runs this site answers questions for free and has loads of videos on touring. A really good source of information. I done over 5,000 miles touring (France, Spain and Portugal) so far and still manage to pick up useful tips from this site.

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PostPosted: 21:54 - 05 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normandy is a fantastic place if you're interested in WW2 history and quaint old towns, but you need to go inland slightly for interesting roads.

The Belgian Ardennes, Luxembourg and Eifel (Nurburgring)/Mosel/Rhine area on the other hand offers great riding, food and beer, so is a great introduction to European touring Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 06 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

a trip to the 'ring is a possibility in the coming years, this is just a taster if you like to see how we all get along with it.

the plan is to visit Normandy and take in the history and that. the coastal route, although a bit longer, looks the better way to go.

Cheers for the links posted and the hints and tips from people! all very useful!

anyone know the law on reflective jackets and helmet patches for France? Do you actually need them?
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 06 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Reflective jackets yes but only need wear in case of breakdown or accident not when riding. Helmets same as UK.

The following were either repelled or not enforced.

Reflective Jackets
Reflective Strips on Helmets
Breathalyser kits to be carries.

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PostPosted: 16:47 - 06 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

a trip to the 'ring is a possibility in the coming years, this is just a taster if you like to see how we all get along with it.

the plan is to visit Normandy and take in the history and that. the coastal route, although a bit longer, looks the better way to go.

Cheers for the links posted and the hints and tips from people! all very useful!

anyone know the law on reflective jackets and helmet patches for France? Do you actually need them?
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 06 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay89 wrote:
why forget any attempt at cooking? we're taking a mini stove to cook some basics on.

France isn`t a 3rd world country, fast food & snacks are available at every fuel station, along with coffee, bottled water and soft drinks.
For breakfast and evening meals like here in England, cafes and bars along with assorted restaurant's serve a variety of food which price for price I doubt you could buy the ingredients in the supermarket and cook cheaper, unless your living of pot noodles etc.
Jay89 wrote:
Will need a few tops for the evenings and some jeans im thinking

Beside your documents, bike and money:
1x spare pair of socks
1x spare pair of underwear
1x t-shirt
is all you require, the rest of the time you will be wearing your bike gear, why carry what you ain`t using? Your only away for 5 days so If any item of your gear doesn`t have at least 2 uses (on or off the bike) then leave it at home. If you do find that maybe you should have taken something that you didn`t that you can at least stop at the local supermarket and buy it
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 06 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

a trip to the 'ring is a possibility in the coming years, this is just a taster if you like to see how we all get along with it.

the plan is to visit Normandy and take in the history and that. the coastal route, although a bit longer, looks the better way to go.

Cheers for the links posted and the hints and tips from people! all very useful!

anyone know the law on reflective jackets and helmet patches for France? Do you actually need them?
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Jay89
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 06 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

a trip to the 'ring is a possibility in the coming years, this is just a taster if you like to see how we all get along with it.

the plan is to visit Normandy and take in the history and that. the coastal route, although a bit longer, looks the better way to go.

Cheers for the links posted and the hints and tips from people! all very useful!

anyone know the law on reflective jackets and helmet patches for France? Do you actually need them?
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 07 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay89 wrote:
anyone know the law on reflective jackets and helmet patches for France? Do you actually need them?


Reflective jackets not compulsory now. Reflective helmet patches have been for a long time but rarely (if ever) checked, however if you want some marmalade on here can supply for a couple of quid.
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