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PostPosted: 01:33 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Suzuki GN 125 vs Honda CG 125 Reply with quote

Hi, I am looking to replace my old Yamaha SR 125 with either the Suzuki GN 125 or the Honda CG 125, and looking for a few pros and cons of each or just general opinions. I have read that they are both very reliable bikes which is what I am after. I plan to ride a 125 for another 4/5 years before moving on to a bigger bike so I want this bike to last that time.

I get the impression that he Hondas are slightly more reliable and can do more mileage than the suzuki, is this true? I have seen a Suzuki with 27k on the clock, which looks OK but is this mileage a bit on the high size?

I prefer the style of the Suzuki but wonder if the Honda would be a better practical alternative.

Any thoughts would be welcome, thanks. I am looking to get something around 2006-2008, with a budget of 1k max. I do not like the sport bikes with fairings.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 01:55 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget there's the Yamaha ybr125. All 3 bikes are more or less the same, I would go for whatever comes up locally for a good price/condition etc. Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 01:59 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had the newer models however I have had both and currently got the Gn now. Personally I'd go for the CG it's has natural relaxed seating position, you can easily toss it around corners, easily check the oil (prefer dipstick myself to display on the side), the brakes aren't that good (same with the gn). Also it has a smaller wheelbase (or at least seems it), both are great on fuel at least 100+ to a full tank.

Problems wise I've had more on the CG that includes cush drive rubbers both wheels, seized back brake to center stand, new battery, dodgy electrics and indicator relay on CG and GN. So far the only thing Ive needed to have replace on the GN was a throttle cable, indicator relay and exhaust from previous owners mess up.

Things to look out for are shagged throttle cables (not maintained they snap), that it goes into gears correctly as well as the electrics working. As long as you take care of either bike it will do you well, regular oil changes, lubrication and chain maintenance.

One thing I would recommend if you choose any are bar ends, protect your throttle encase you go down.
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PostPosted: 02:32 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gn might offer a little(very little) more go if it's the pushrod CG your looking at.....we used 3 gn's at the training school for 5 years and apart from a couple of carb diaphragms splitting they were day in day out bomb proof and stood up to the start stop start stop life of a training school bike with 10 emergency stops a day and red lined at full throttle for a few miles of duel carriage way work for years.

The engine is based on the old gs/dr 125 which used to have restricted oil to the top end resulting in camshaft/head failure if not looked after. Modified on the GN models but keep the oil topped up and fresh just to be safe. The CG is also just as competent but less erm....style in some eyes but more sold so parts are plentiful and tend not to be bought by youths as a result. If your looking for a few years from the bike....get the best condition lowest possible mileage one close to you.
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PostPosted: 03:18 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rode my mates GN125 back across the country for him when he brought it, very solid little machine. Only issues he's had is with the ignition barrel. Preferred it to the CG, just a bit more fun I guess even if there's barely anything between them performance/quality wise.
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PostPosted: 03:24 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with eddie. Ybf, GN, CG - all much of a muchness. None of that matters - what does is condition and price. Pull the trigger on any of those if the right bike comes up. Just keep looking.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thanks a lot. I have a slight preference for the gn but will take what comes up.

I have been put of the YBR a little, though the custom ones look good. My brother had one and had a lot of problems with it, so it probably wasn't bikes fault as it might of been thrashed by two teenagers before. It felt strange to sit on after being on the sr too.
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with the sr?
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing major wrong, it needed a new exhaust and adjustments to the chain was quoted £188 to sort. It is a 93 bike and obviously a little rough and ready looks wise so I thought I'd be better of selling and putting the money towards another bike.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do the work yourself mate neither of those jobs are hard and an exhaust is going to be Cheap, new one on ebay £60.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A GN or a CG will need the exhaust changing every few years as well...and erm chain adjusting Shocked Shocked Shocked if you can't do that.....don't really think you should be riding bikes lol
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It needed a link taking of the chain, I can adjust the chain thanks. Really just looking for advice on the CG or GN and not my skills or why I should keep a 21 year old ugly looking bike.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

STONEY! wrote:
Just do the work yourself mate neither of those jobs are hard and an exhaust is going to be Cheap, new one on ebay £60.


or keep an eye out for decent condition used ones, picked a CG exhaust up for £20 the other day.

Probably the best thing about the CG is parts availability. Be that pattern parts, or used genuine. What ever you need you can pick up thanks to the long production run, although some parts from different models aren't straight swaps.

That said, as above, just do the work yourself, neither are big jobs really. Where about in the country are you based? Someone may be willing to help.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi thanks but I have already sold the bike and want another bike. Regardless of the exhaust I wanted another bike either the Suzuki or Honda. Saw one at £900 but with 27k on the clock wondered if this was a little too high value wise, think it is really so will be on the lookout. The bike has to be good for another 4/5 years and although happy with the SR in the first year wanted something a little newer over the coming years. I slightly prefer the Suzuki.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah £900 is asking a lot for that mileage....not that it wouldn't do the same again if its been looked after. For £1000 you should be able to bag a much smaller mileage 125.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

And FWIW if I was in the market for a 125 for that long....I'd invest in a varadero.
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PostPosted: 03:20 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

£900 for 27k miles is to much! Should be able to pick up a 10k mile one for that money....and erm sorry but you did say chain adjustment! And style wise not a lot of difference between the SR and GN in my eyes... The Honda twin on the other hand Wink as well as a bit of extra go and smoother engine has a bit more big bike feel for the cost of an extra plug every second service
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PostPosted: 06:53 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol how the fuck is the SR ugly but the GN not?!? We're getting into the realms of rivet counting to tell 'em apart.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Lol how the fuck is the SR ugly but the GN not?!? We're getting into the realms of rivet counting to tell 'em apart.


When there is a dent in the tank, crack in the speedo, shoddy paint work, rust on the wheels, ceased nuts and bolts, rusted chain and sprockets, bent mirror, loose side panels, scratches on the body and general run down condition for a 21 year old bike with 11 previous owners as used in all conditions. Great runner for my first bike, done 2000 mile but if possible I would like another bike now thanks...
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

But yes thanks I will look for a bike with about 10k on the clock and in good condition.
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