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jimspeed
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 14 Feb 2014    Post subject: GS500, what are they like, what to look for Reply with quote

Guys, I've been offered 2 GS500's for mucho cheapness Confused
both run ok, one is a 1990 and has just out of mot and the other is a 2001 I think, I was thinking of getting both and sorting thru em using the old one as a hack and probly selling the other to my uncle who is looking to do his DAS soon.
what to look for with these? are they fairly robust bikes or do they suffer with common problems?
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 14 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see you have had a GPZ500, So basically a cheaper version of that.

Look out for shit brake calipers, blowing exhausts....
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 14 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers guys, i'll take a look at em tomorrow and go from there then. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 14 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a 1989 with 50,000 miles on and it's a pretty solid bike, it hadn't had much love before I got it either.

Main issues I have had were both brake calipers (everything being seized/rusted after however many years of not being maintained), and oil pissing out of a presumably 24 year old cam chain tensioner gasket which did not look happy when I took it off.

Bike lives outside in the rain, snow etc. and frame has less rust than a 2014 CBF125 and is my daily commuter Smile

One perennial problem I have had is fuel starvation which I intend to sort once and for all with a full clean of the tank, fuel tap, carbs, new fuel filter etc., I have heard that is a common thing, I guess it's probably common when a bike hits 24 years old anyway
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 14 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rust. Look for rust.

You won't have to look hard mind you.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 14 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't buy one.

I'd buy an ER5 before a GS500... and an ER5 is utterly fucking tripe at best.

Of the 4 GS500s I've seen, 4 have stopped working. That is 100% fail rate. That is more fail the Jivebunny and mikesaa making sweet love.
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GS500 is basicly the GS400 I trained to work on at Suzuki GB in 1970's
Tough as old boots very forgiving as long as the oil is there and not to dirty there just go and go

Rear brakes callipers renounced fro sizing up front only slightly better

If you go for it once sorted there will run and run

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PostPosted: 10:56 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

davebike wrote:
If you go for it once sorted there will run and run

Dave


If you regularly maintain the bikes brake system, especially in winter.

But it is what it is. It's not pretending to be something it isn't.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gs500 had lots of problems. I paid £320 for it so not bad at all, great learner bike really...

Clutch plates went, regulator shat itself.... the magneto died...
The electrics were faulty. Whenever I put the indicators on and the revs went about 3k the indies cut out... Exhaust was turning rotten...inside of the tank was seriously rusty...

All these problems and it had only hit 34k miles. Laughing

but I sold it on for £550 once I cafe racered her up. And then it got sold on to another guy who appaz racked up over 65k on it now.

My friend also got one, he had blown fork seals, slipping clutch, leaking cases.... It's all an easy fix really, but the difference is he paid £750! Laughing Laughing If it has any sorts of problems like these, make sure you only spend a few hundred.


Just keep an eye on oil level. Once they are running they are pretty nice bikes though, mine was a lot of fun.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's 15 years since I rode an ER5, but I have to say I enjoyed it at the time, as for a commuter or cheap to run middleweight would probably have another one, condition dependant.

I have a theory that something like an ER5 or CB500 is easier to look after than the 4cylinder middleweights like the XJ600 and Blandit 600, and probably more fun too!
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing cheers guys, i got em both in the end for less than £400, having now ridden one give me a gpz any day Confused feels like riding a 125 compared to the zzr lol.
one has 90K on it Shocked and appears to be absolutly fine while to other has 15K and is a bit of a shed, uncle has had a go and it's not the bike for him so I'll ebay em off tomorrow eve or something..
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:


I'd guess that the CB500 is the best of the three in terms of handling/engine as the ThundersportGB race series is based around 500 twins (GS, ER CB - yet the CB seems to be the bike of choice)



Yeah, but people race MZs too Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 17 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reliability wise based on my experiences with a 97 plate GS 500 E they aren't bad. Mine sipped oil when thrashed and developed a fuelling issue as time wore on, it became a shit to start, struggled to rev cleanly and sometimes wouldn't idle. Never diagnosed this before I got rid and there seemed to be little evidence to explain why the fuelling suddenly went from fine to crap in the space of 1k miles in the same weather conditions with no tampering to the fuel or electrics. Mechanically never had any faults in 3k miles of ownership (owned from 33k to 36k miles, so relatively low miles to me).

Biggest criticism stemmed from the overall ride quality, power delivery and fuel consumption, it barely handled and felt gutless all the while only achieving 40-45 mpg which I get from my VFR which has a fair bit more go. The brakes were acceptable IMO, even two up and or carrying camping equipment and other consumables were relatively cheap.

Build quality was a gripe too when replacing the rear sprocket, the OEM sprocket retaining nuts had to be grinded off and rust was starting to show through at some points despite quite regular cleaning.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 17 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
J.M had one that was from memory an '08 model [...] Oil level is the big one. They absolutely drink the stuff, and once you see the pressure warning light flag up the engines got a few weeks/hours/minuites to live.


'04. Mine was great on oil. Didn't drink a drop in the entire time that I owned it. No top-up required at any time in-between oil changes Thumbs Up

I quite liked mine. I could get 220 to a tank. It wasn't "slow" (at the time). Compared to bikes owned/ridden since though, it certainly is slow and boring.

However it did mess up a fair bit. With mine, the issues that weren't caused by me being a noob were:
- buckets sticking when cold
- starter clutch died
- crappy wiring, so battery wasn't charging properly (a quick mod fixed this)
- started misfiring in the wet. A lot
- spring in petcock worn
- main tank also drained the reserve tank
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