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Feels a bit big and lardy at first. I wondered how I'd ever cope on my first time and found it cumbersome with how wide the seat was, the weight, height etc compared to my 125
Over time it wasn't an issue and it's almost like the bike shrinks  ____________________ Bandit 600 - deaded |
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Plus they'll be less bothered by wind. The main problem with a 125 is because they weigh so little the wind batters them about and generally makes for a bad experience.
I rode home the other week in that horrific wind on a dual carriageway and it was terrifying considering it was only the 4th time I'd ridden a motorbike. Shat myself, I did  |
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Big bikes are (generally) slower turning, and need more effort at the bars to get big changes in lean angle, due to both increased mass and wider wheels. But the steering head angle matters here too.
At speed, the heavier wheels and tyres have more gyroscopic stability - it's harder to change the angle of high speed rotating mass. So more stable at speed.
The suspension usually works far better at speed, since there is more sprung mass - the bit above the suspension. Lighter bikes are thrown around more by surface imperfections. But the stiffness of the suspension matters here too.
It all usually translates to them being easier to ride slowly in a straight line, and being more stable at speed.
But easier to ride? That depends on where and how you ride. If you're trying to go fast, or go slowly in a straight line, it's much easier on a big bike. If you're throwing the bike around at slow speeds (like dense traffic), then no, a big bike is much easier to drop should something speculative go wrong. But you learn not to do that.
Wider front tyre also means the bike will straighten up a lot more if you brake with the front while leaned over. At speed, in a corner, this can mean going off the road or into the oncoming lane. Straightening up under braking is caused by the slowing front wheel being pulled to the inside of the turn around the steering axis by the road. Steering into the inside of the turn causes the bike to rotate to the vertical due to the countersteering effect. Wider tyre means the road has more leverage over the steering axis. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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depends what your going to do with your bigger bike
Baron von Grumble shows when a bigger bike isnt easy at all here:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqgEl53x7CM ____________________ tinybikes |
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Would have been funny to see a mountain bike just casually go past or a 50 - 125cc dirt bike. Must have had fun cleaning that when he got home  |
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| bikersupermoto wrote: | riding smaller bikes can be easier than riding larger bikes.
if you come to a stop at an awkward camber angle in the road, need to reverse or move you bike into a tight spot - its all made a whole lot easier the lighter and smaller the bike.
if you did drop it, you can pick up easily a 125 - try doing the same with a 1000cc sportbike.
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Apparently a lot of it depends what you mean by "riding".
Fair points, but I'd say on balance, bigger balances better. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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In my experience riding a 125cc in the snow and ice was easier because my legs were like stabilisers, on the larger bikes however...
That and moving the smaller bike around, I could practically pick up the 125cc but cannot do the same for the 650cc.
But then I am a weed.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 1 day ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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