Can i have this bike on a a2 license?

[ian3mith]

The bike i am looking at is bmw f650 gs 2003. its like 2.83 bhp over the license limit, but if i do but i restrictor in it would make a different. is that correct?

[pinkyfloyd]

https://www.dft.gov.uk/motorcycle-test-vehicle-list/

According to this....

Computer says yes!
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[ian3mith]

that could be just more riding tests. since it like 2 bhp over they probably allowed it? i dunno confussed...

[BG5067]

if i remember correctly you can restricted a bike to the relevant CC as long as it's not over 70KW or something
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[BG5067]

add to that you must not ride anything above 35kW but you can have a bigger bike restricted to that as long as it wasn't originally a 70kW+ bike to beginning with


CONFUSED NOW
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[ian3mith]

[BG5067]

[ian3mith]

Would the insurers want document saying it is restricted since im 19. My dad saying it is too big.. but that 1.5kW wont make a difference. Who would know?

[Rogerborg]

[BG5067]

[Rogerborg]

kW is more precise. Your "bhp" might be someone else's "electric", "mechanical", "metric" or any of the other "three groats to a bushel" scale.

Fortunately, dyno calculations of "net engine power" are also voodoo maths, so 35kW = 36.5kW for real world purposes.
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[ian3mith]

As roger said, can I not retrict it as its not really noticeable and won't get done by police as output will xome up like 35kW

[jeddy11]

As its an older bike it probably has lost some ooomph so probably would test under 1.5 kw or the 3 bhp you need ??
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[Rogerborg]

I would ride that bike unrestricted, just as I rode my "26.5kW" GPz305 on a 25kW license with few figs being given.

This infamous sv650.org thread suggests that at least some police forces won't hand it to the CPS for prosecution unless the dynomaths come out more than 10% over. Given that the bike only claimed 36.5kW as stock, a calculation of 38.5kW would highlight how loopy dyno estimates are rather than convict you.

You might be asked to show a "certificate", although no such thing exists.

A convincing looking bit of paper should do the trick, and it's unlikely even to come to that since most insurers don't even distinguish between A1, A2 and A licenses anyway (eBike being a notable exception).
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[ian3mith]

No jeddy 3 bph is nothing lol. Reading these comments are very supportive and I will proceed with the plan

[Rogerborg]

If asked, volunteer nothing.

If accused, admit nothing.

It's for other people to show that it is actually making over 35kW, not for you to show that it isn't.
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[Ste]

Used to ride 133bhp on a 33bhp.