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janner_10
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: So... 1999 R1 Reply with quote

I went to have a cheeky look at a '99 R1 today. Mechanically it is sound and its only got 12k on the clock @ £1600

Obviously I will need to change the consumables, oil, shoes etc etc

The downside is that although the fairings are not cracked they look like a bag of shit - the lacquer seems to be peeling off most of them and there is the odd chip. Also the wheels look shit and home painted.

Decent bike and worth a punt?

Also anyone had any of their fairing repainted or re-lacquered and was the cost reasonable.

I also found a firm in the forest that can wrap the panels - the whole bike for £200 so I just need to get a sticker set - but I am concerned with the carbon effect looking a bit chavvy!!

Any musings welcome.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: So... 1999 R1 Reply with quote

janner_10 wrote:
Also anyone had any of their fairing repainted or re-lacquered and was the cost reasonable.

I also found a firm in the forest that can wrap the panels - the whole bike for £200 so I just need to get a sticker set - but I am concerned with the carbon effect looking a bit chavvy!!
I've had a few pieces painted - it depends where you go. If you want it looking like factory, coloured matched and laquered perfectionatly i'd expect a full sport bike fairing to run well into the 100s of pounds at a lot of more well known places.

If you find some amateur outfit in the back of a little trading estate probably quite a bit less - but then you're likely taking a gamble on how good a job they do and possibly wasting the money further down the line.

Wrap can be a lot cheaper, but its also prone to problems like bubbling and peeling if its not applied very carefully/looked after. Stones flicking up and damaging the wrap allowing water in can start to make it look nasty pretty quick.

Carbon wrap looks pretty nasty generally Razz Okay for odd small parts but I wouldn't dare try a full fairing it will probably look really tacky and obvious I expect.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother messing round getting panels wrapped, a complete set of replacement fairings from China is less than £300 and by all accounts they're well made and finished and fit really well.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fairing-Body-Work-Frame-Kit-ABS-Injection-Yamaha-YZF-R1-1998-1999-98-99-/360799864774?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item54015907c6

Or if it's a blue one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fairing-Body-Work-Frame-Kit-ABS-Injection-Yamaha-YZF-R1-1998-1999-98-99-/360799865143?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item5401590937

Loads of other race rep designs to choose from too.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mat - you echo my thoughts on wrapping.

Im in no massive rush to get it in showroom condition so I guess I can remove 1 fairing at a time and find somewhere - or do it myself.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Errrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm, you are one year out from the ultimate bike of all time.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Ghost - very useful and probably the best and easiest route.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds okay for the money. Miles are alarmingly low for the condition you describe...so treat them as incorrect.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree but it all checks out with the MOT's and it has a VOSA report too.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

How difficult is it to wind miles off between MOTs on an old R1? Could you just get an electric drill on the end of the cable or is it more of a pita? Just wondering.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

On early R1s the main problem is 2nd gear, you need to take the bike for a spin before you part with cash. Check it doesn't jump out of gear when winding the throttle on and off. Watch for huge wheelies as well as the early r1s are a bit brutal lol.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

For £1600 you could get a near-mint ZX9.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

totalllama82 wrote:
For £1600 you could get a near-mint ZX9.


Been looking but they dont go for that money.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Cars-Motorcycles-Vehicles-/9800/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=zx9R
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used ZX9Rs have gone up in price since 2009. Back then £1500 would get you a mint C2, a little more for an E model.

Now people are expecting near £2k for a C model despite the bikes being 5 years older.
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

your better off wrapping the R1 i have had my R1 wrapped and its perfectly fine no bubbles or problems was done by totally dynamic

those Chinese fairings never ever seem to fit right like oem fairings do plus you will need a tank to match as the tank cover that comes with the chinese fairings is a joke, plus you will get stung with import charges

ive posted pics of my R1 wrapped in gloss black in the show and tell section, im getting some fairings on my new R1 plasti dipped gloss white as its much cheaper than wrapping and does the same job

choose a colour and get it wrapped or hunt for oem fairings on ebay
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Used ZX9Rs have gone up in price since 2009. Back then £1500 would get you a mint C2, a little more for an E model.

Now people are expecting near £2k for a C model despite the bikes being 5 years older.


Inflation etc, I have a fantastic C2 zx9 with a genuine 11k on it. I wouldn't let it go for less than that. Not with all the sensible extras it has (scottoiler, handlebar raisers, sexy rear light unit and original etc)
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inflation shouldn't effect used goods, especially ones that get worse with age.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Used ZX9Rs have gone up in price since 2009. Back then £1500 would get you a mint C2, a little more for an E model.

Now people are expecting near £2k for a C model despite the bikes being 5 years older.


Wow, I stand corrected! I bought mine (C2 in Blue with 26k) for £1600 3 years ago - completely mint. Turns out I might actually make a profit out of her! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Inflation shouldn't effect used goods, especially ones that get worse with age.

wish this was true but
given the price hike of new bikes this price inflation has had a knock on effect on the price of second hand bikes, not least because there are fewer around.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here she is:

https://i59.tinypic.com/30szmgg.jpg

2 fairings need attention the rest a damn good clean, as does the rest of the bike.

Rides lovely and what a grin after about 6 to 7k revs!!
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm liking that alot, I'd just leave the fairings, they look fine from a distance Laughing

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PostPosted: 18:56 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

totalllama82 wrote:
c-m wrote:
Used ZX9Rs have gone up in price since 2009. Back then £1500 would get you a mint C2, a little more for an E model.

Now people are expecting near £2k for a C model despite the bikes being 5 years older.


Wow, I stand corrected! I bought mine (C2 in Blue with 26k) for £1600 3 years ago - completely mint. Turns out I might actually make a profit out of her! Very Happy


Yas, I'll be selling higher than I was going to. Cool Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:35 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh... 4XV...

Is your 2nd gear okay?

If so, happy days!
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its been resprayed, probably badly and the tank decal is wrong, but fuck it. Nice enough bikes. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

2nd gear is sweet, infact engine is lovely.

I reckon is has been resprayed Paddy - but not fussed at that price - a new set of aftermarket fairings and a wheel pint it will look lovely.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spray the black bits white and your more than halfway there Wink
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