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PostPosted: 20:40 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: TIPS FOR NEWBIE RIDERS Reply with quote

I did a search and didn't see anything I was thinking of a list of simple but not so obvious things about biking for new bikers. Things that might save them time , effort and maybe an accident in the future Laughing

So ill start , im pretty new myself .

Always check your fuel tap , first time I had a real bike it was on reserve didnt know ran out 10 miles from home Sad

dont forget to cancel your indicators.

Most people on the roads are out to kill you and drive like idiots , deal with it try to read what they are going to do.

always wear gear , even if your just popping the shop down the road comming off hurts , even at 20 mph in a tshirt and shorts Embarassed

dont feel like you need to ride left of center of the road, all it does it give cagers a excuse to try and overtake you with no room . If your doing the speed limit STUFF THEM.

I always carry an adjustable wrench in my tank bag. Fix my bike with that plenty of times Wink

Check you chain weekly maximum and nuts and bolts

If it won't start , check your kill switch and check your stand is not down with it in gear and your fuel is on.

Reset your trip meters when you fill up.

Mr sheen polish ,works as a good anti rain for your Visor .

Your front brake give you 70% OF YOUR STOPPING powers squeeze it , dont yank it.

Its nice to nod.

manholes, drains and white lines arw slippery in the wet.

You are faster than that car who wants to race you. We all know were faster, save it for the track.

The life saver is your friend.

If you have an old bike . Put your light one , the dosey perso who will pull out on you , may just see you.

If you see a stranded biker stop and offer help. Karma and all that.




please add more there are lot and lots.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: TIPS FOR NEWBIE RIDERS Reply with quote

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:


If it won't start , check your kill switch and check your stand is not down with it in gear and your fuel is on.


I'd like to just re-highlight this 2. Those are the buggers that got me when i started a year ago!

Don't try to impress anyone, especially at the lights as you try to pull away quickly, you may just stall it and look like a pillock!

Beware of debris on the road, a little stone can cause mayhem, dirt and fuel on the road is slippy. Also watch for the fuel at petrol stations your feet can slip away from you. Roundabouts can be quite bad for fuel spills, its been known for idiots to purposely spill fuel on them.

Pinlock anti fog is awesome!
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always stop if you see an accident happen.

Regardless of the vehicle type..

Don't want bikers getting a bad name😛
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: TIPS FOR NEWBIE RIDERS Reply with quote

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:
I did a search and didn't see anything I was thinking of a list of simple but not so obvious things about biking for new bikers. Things that might save them time , effort and maybe an accident in the future Laughing

So ill start , im pretty new myself .


I don't normally do this part of the site, but your post was just too full of crap to ignore.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

Always check your fuel tap , first time I had a real bike it was on reserve didnt know ran out 10 miles from home Sad


Where's my fuel tap?

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

Most people on the roads are out to kill you and drive like idiots , deal with it try to read what they are going to do.


Not most people - Everybody on the road is out to kill you. The only ones who aren't out to kill you are the ones who haven't seen you, which makes them more likely to be the ones who will kill you. Treat them accordingly.

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always wear gear , even if your just popping the shop down the road comming off hurts , even at 20 mph in a tshirt and shorts Embarassed


Wear what you like. If you've got this far and still need to be told when to wear suitable protection, it's probably best to let nature take its course.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

dont feel like you need to ride left of center of the road, all it does it give cagers a excuse to try and overtake you with no room . If your doing the speed limit STUFF THEM.


Always have an escape route; so if you're not confident, leave enough room for cars to get past you. It's better to have an impatient car driver in front of you than jammed up your chuff, honking. Being in one piece beats being right.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

I always carry an adjustable wrench in my tank bag. Fix my bike with that plenty of times Wink


Try not to buy a shit bike.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

Mr sheen polish ,works as a good anti rain for your Visor .


Don't spray random crap on your visor. I may help the rain run off, but it will smear like a turd on a blanket, leaving you blinded by oncoming headlights when riding at night. Clean your visor with warm, soapy water and dry with a clean, soft cloth. Preferably daily.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

Its nice to nod.


It used to be. We're all far more cosmopolitan these days.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

manholes, drains and white lines arw slippery in the wet.


News flash, hotshot - they're slippery in the dry too.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

You are faster than that car who wants to race you. We all know were faster, save it for the track.


They don't let cars race bikes on the track.

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The life saver is your friend.


No, the paramedic is your friend. The surgeon who puts you back together is your friend. The insurance broker who sorts your claim is your friend. - all the lifesaver does is stop you from making too many new friends.

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If you have an old bike . Put your light one , the dosey perso who will pull out on you , may just see you.


Too right. Dosey perso's miss out lots of important stuff. You could be carrying a shark with a frickin' laser and be shitting giant rainbows and they'd still pull out on you. Don't think a measly headlamp will save you.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

If you see a stranded biker stop and offer help. Karma and all that.

Unless it's Wulfstain. Then you can just carry on.

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:

please add more there are lot and lots.

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PostPosted: 22:59 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, very good, worth listing, have to say I had forgot some of those (only temporarily of course).
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 24 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hit the post button a few minutes too late, hey, that's BCF, Smile

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PostPosted: 04:59 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You is dosey perso innit.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thats the first dick of the day out of the way, anyone else got any helpful hints. FOR NEW RIDERS.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:
Well thats the first dick of the day out of the way, anyone else got any helpful hints. FOR NEW RIDERS.


Yeah get out there and learn by riding
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:
Well thats the first dick of the day out of the way, anyone else got any helpful hints. FOR NEW RIDERS.


HELPFUL hints? A few. But this one is probably most apt.

Who is bigger idiot? Chap with L-Pates, yet to put his wisdom to the test; offering advice; or Chap who put wisdom to test, and has no L-Plates, and still alive to tell the tale? Suggesting advice of newb may be a bit dozee?

Whose helpful hints would you think are probably more useful and reliable?

A qualified and experienced riders?
OR
A wanabee newb, with half a clue and a big dose of over confidence?

Next hint? Accidents tend to happen when confidence exceeds competance.

Oooh! I think I have just created a parable!

Mr Sheene! WAX on your fucking visor. Where's the shakey head emoticon! It just Beggers belief!

Helpful Hint #3; Better to keep mouth closed and let folk think you an idiot; than open it and let them know you for one.

OR... shut the fuck up, before some-one even less clueless than you follows your suggested 'advice' and hurts themselves badly!

Put your energy in to learning to ride your own bike; getting your own licence; and leave the CBT tips to the folk paid and qualified to give them!
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:
Well thats the first dick of the day out of the way, anyone else got any helpful hints. FOR NEW RIDERS.


HELPFUL hints? A few. But this one is probably most apt.

Who is bigger idiot? Chap with L-Pates, yet to put his wisdom to the test; offering advice; or Chap who put wisdom to test, and has no L-Plates, and still alive to tell the tale? Suggesting advice of newb may be a bit dozee?

Whose helpful hints would you think are probably more useful and reliable?

A qualified and experienced riders?
OR
A wanabee newb, with half a clue and a big dose of over confidence?

Next hint? Accidents tend to happen when confidence exceeds competance.

Oooh! I think I have just created a parable!

Mr Sheene! WAX on your fucking visor. Where's the shakey head emoticon! It just Beggers belief!

Helpful Hint #3; Better to keep mouth closed and let folk think you an idiot; than open it and let them know you for one.

OR... shut the fuck up, before some-one even less clueless than you follows your suggested 'advice' and hurts themselves badly!

Put your energy in to learning to ride your own bike; getting your own licence; and leave the CBT tips to the folk paid and qualified to give them!

Shocked The shortest Tef post ever Laughing

Pretty much got to agree though. At this stage OP, you really need to be listening to advice, not giving it.. Although, you may have posted with the best of intentions, some of your advice is pretty dodgy, to say the least.

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PostPosted: 11:47 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joined 2007... You sure he/she's on a CBT? Sounds like it's advice from a biker to new riders.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Joined 2007... You sure he/she's on a CBT? Sounds like it's advice from a biker to new riders.


FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:
Hi im new , been lurking for a while , but not anymore.

I was wondering I have a 125 gz marauder.


& Six years ago he was 23 with a 125 Super-Dream with dodgy ignition.

He might have got a licence in that time.... but you STILL don't stick furniture wax on your visor! OR your saddle, for that matter;... but that's another yarn!
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Who is bigger idiot? Chap with L-Pates, yet to put his wisdom to the test; offering advice; or Chap who put wisdom to test, and has no L-Plates, and still alive to tell the tale? Suggesting advice of newb may be a bit dozee?

Whose helpful hints would you think are probably more useful and reliable?

A qualified and experienced riders?
OR
A wanabee newb, with half a clue and a big dose of over confidence?



Another way of looking at it is new riders tend to soak up any available advice from many and varied sources so possibly are in a much better position ( considering it's their main focus ) to quote tips for new riders than someone who's become complaicent over the years and doesn't pay as much attention to the more mundane aspects of riding.

That being said it doesn't rule out the value of experience but passing your test also doesn't automatically make you a riding god or instill you with wisdom.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
He might have got a licence in that time.... but you STILL don't stick furniture wax on your visor! OR your saddle, for that matter;... but that's another yarn!


Well a quick search online seems to bring up a lot of posts on the subject. Many who swear by it. Could be more to this furniture wax on the visor than you think.

You tried it Tef? If so what was the issue?
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Well a quick search online seems to bring up a lot of posts on the subject. Many who swear by it. Could be more to this furniture wax on the visor than you think.

You tried it Tef? If so what was the issue?


I dont deny any posibility; but I am not a fan of the impressionist painters perception of the world... especially when I'm rushing into it faster than I can walk! Bad enough having an oil-smear on your visor, without putting it there deliberately.


It's an asside to the topic; but when I was working my way through Uni, I had holiday job, as an 'Open Nozzle Sand-Blaster'... Same sort of kit as the little work-shop blasting booths; but without the booth... and instead of powered by a paint-pot and air-wrench work shop compressor, rated at 30cfm, or even a 175Cfm kango-hammer building site compressor; this stuff was driven by huge Ingersol Industrial compressors, rated around 5-600Cfm, chucking something like 15Kilo of heavy copper abrasive a minute, at supersonic velocity from the nozzle. We were working on steel framed 'structures'; cranes, pile driving plant; bridges, stuff like that; stood in the back-spray from the blast.

For protection, we got a pair of heavy chrome leather over-alls; bit like big baggy race leathers; and a hat, something between a divers helmet and a welders mask; which, like a diver, was pumped full of air from the compressor, to help keep the grit out and let us breath. FUCKING hot work, in college summer holiday!

Anyhow; the abrasive was hard enough, and fast enough, that even just the back spray had enough force to etch glass. Welders mask thing, had special toughened glass 'visor', but in front of that, was a slot, that took three or four clear ascetate sheets, which you would tug out, as they tatterd, which if you were lucky was every five minutes or so. Even so, glass behind still needed replacing every shift or so. Meant about fifteen or twenty minutes 'in the hat' at a time; before you stopped; drank a gallon or so of pop against dehyration, and cought your breath reloading the inserts.

Something of a breakthrough, when at the end of that summer, got a new 'hat' which took, new, and expensive, 'so use them sparingly' 'tear-off' inserts. Pre-cut, and perforated, there was about six in a pack, and you could rip one off without risking pulling the others out the slot!

Of course, gave me the idea; "I wonder if I could adapt something like this for a motorbike helmet"... I had already discovered the disc-lock, and was marketing it mail-order... seemed like the next 'biking accessory' I could do, and an innovation I might possibly even use for Uni course work.

Other folk beat me to it; I think it was Aria, actually put a tear-off visor on the market, while there was an American MX'er who marketed a roll of cling-film you sort of reeled accross your goggles like an old school Overhead Transparency; which stimied patent applications; but believe me; something that got a LOT of time and attention, was how to keep visors clear!

So, yes... I have tried most old wives-tale visor preps, and a good % of the visor snake-oil on the market.

Best advice I can offer from scientific study of the topic is; bollox to the lot of it! Buy a good hat, that dont steam up too easy in the first place; use nothing harsher than soap and water to keep the visor clean; and replace it periodically to keep it scratch free and clear.

Far too many folk never change thier visors.. unless its for fashion... fitting a fancy tinted one; use them till they are etched and whorled with ingrained grime to the point they almost cant see through them at all, and THEN expect a bit of polish or some bottled-brew to work magic on it.... and unfortunately; without back to back comparison against a new visor; improvement observed by polishing the turd, does make them believe it 'works'.

So, like I said, I dont deny any posibility; BUT I suspect that its a "Daz washes whiter" thing. Whiter than what? Sure; spray a dirty visor with furnature polish that lifts dirt and leaves wax, is likely to let you see better through wax smear than the dirt!.... grease smear of wax on the inside, making condensation bead, likely to be clearer than dirty visor, with condensation clinging to every grain of grime. If that's your comparison, yeah, probably works a treat, until new layer of grime is clinging to the wax, to grind new whorls into the perspex when you apply next dose of furnature polish.

Meanwhile.... what solvents are there in that furnature polish? And what did it say on the advice label that came with the helmet about them?
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, like I said, I dont deny any posibility; BUT I suspect that its a "Daz washes whiter" thing


So you say it's possibe and could work a dream... I'm trying it Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
He might have got a licence in that time.... but you STILL don't stick furniture wax on your visor! OR your saddle, for that matter;... but that's another yarn!


Well a quick search online seems to bring up a lot of posts on the subject. Many who swear by it. Could be more to this furniture wax on the visor than you think.

You tried it Tef? If so what was the issue?


I use Pledge on my Shoei GT Air. Wash visor first with a mild soap and then dry off with microfibre cloth then spray and polish. Good for shifting rain (same as Rain-X which I am told is only good for glass) and leaves clear finish which helps when wiping of the road spray dirt with damp cloth en route. Should also provide a barrier between splatter bugs and visor in summer so less visor swirls from cleaning.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any Mr Sheen or Pledge type furniture polish is the absolute ticket for visor cleaning.

That 'just polished' smell when you're heads inside the lid is quite pleasant too!
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're thinking too much, and where's don't buy a brand new crappy chinese bike for the same money that'd buy you a nice used japanese bike? Rolling Eyes

Advices that saved my ass: know the road where you go flat out, never ride over tar snakes in rain and faster you go closer to the center of the road you should be. Also never try to impress anyone, I mean chicken stripes, kneedowns, wheelies, being the fastest and so on. It's not like you're gonna get paid for that and it unnecessarily increases the risk.

And the most helpful thing in the world, there's no point in being right all the time. People that wanted to be right while riding a motorcycle are two things, badly injured or dead. Thumbs Up

By the way, some of your points only work, if the bike works well. How about something more general? Like check the neutral by moving the bike a bit, the neutral light doesn't have to work well all the time, the switches could be faulty and you don't want to take off with the stand down, do you? These are things that are easily avoidable and when you buy a bike that is 20+ years old you can't be sure everything is alright. Thumbs Up

PS: I'm so bored I even gave this a thought. Confused
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before fucking my visor with RainX I googled and learned of the Mr Sheen idea - works great for me too. It doesnt smear either as you wipe the residue off once its dried.

Along with what the OP said I'd add ...

Earplugs are a good investment

Hands will get cold even when you think they wont

Everything and everyone is out to kill you - think like this all the time - its a real life game of paperboy
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

been using mr sheen for years

also have used it on brake discs

it comes off with heat when applied so is ok and brings off loads of crap

(i have used it but not often and have never had trouble but this isnt a reccomendation)
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hoping for people to add to the list with their experiences and tips . I do take all of your advise onboard , except for the cocky arrogant , keyboard warriors that pop up .

And yes I am new to biking . I used to ride scooters and a few 125s when I was younger and just got back into it. Thats why ive got post from 6 years ago. To be honest I had forgot I had done them post all them years ago.

all I was trying to do was be helpful to new kids on scooters learning , things that ive learnt over the last year of being back on a bike . Amd I choose to ride a 125cc im not limited to it . Thats wht there is no L plates on my bike
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

FROGGYRIBBIT wrote:
I was hoping for people to add to the list with their experiences and tips .


I'd also add to know the capabilities of your bike/scooter especially if it's a standard 4 stroke 125 that can't make more than 70 at a push, and to also know your own capabilities and not try to push them too soon until you have a better understanding on how well the bike will handle etc.

Also if you plan to overtake a lorry on a 125 then be aware of the "wall of wind" that forms at the front which will cause a drastic lose in power. If the wind is behind you, you're okay with over taking the lorry.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

djrikki wrote:
Everything and everyone is out to kill you - think like this all the time - its a real life game of paperboy


Ooh paperboy, Dam I had forgotten about the game, best game ever Razz

Comerdore 64 right ?
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