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wilkesy3
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PostPosted: 02:46 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Looking to buy my first bike, any advice?? Reply with quote

Hi Guys,

I currently only possess a CBT liscense and own a 2013 Honda CBR 125 (which may I say is a beautiful bike) but I am looking at buying a bike for when I have passed my DAS and was wondering what suggestions you guys may have?

I prefer my sports bike range so think I will be looking in that genre but am open to suggestions.

I heard very good things about the Daytona 675 and absolutely love the Honda CBR range, but I'm sure there are others out there! Any suggestions or advice would be muchly appreciated.

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PostPosted: 09:22 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What license category will you have (i.e. how old are you)?
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be when I've got my full bike liscense Smile
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you're 24 or older?

What's your budget, and what sort of use will you be making of the bike?
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
So, you're 24 or older?

What's your budget, and what sort of use will you be making of the bike?


Well actually im 20, but im taking my A2 in a few weeks, which will mean I can take my DAS after 2 years. Im not lookimg for a bike to buy whilst under my A2 restrictions, cus im going to keep my CBR, but i thought there is no harm im starting to look early.

Don't really want to be spending more than £5000 and i might be using it in the summer to go the short journey to work and back, but its mainly just to go out riding and having fun on. Might do the ocasional long journey but thats not the proirity.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may want to revise that plan after you've ridden the A2 training bike. It's going to be tough to stick with a 125 once you're used to the bigger bike.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've already done my training and absolutly loved the yamaha mto3 but I've got my honda on a 3 year finance and have been on it since ive been on the yamaha and still absolutly love it. Its such a smooth ride, and for riding around country roads it still gives my brothers bmw gs650 a run for its money (obviously not on the straights!) I'm a patient lad, so im confident ill be able to wait its just i want to start looking for my next bike now cus if i come across a good deal i may be inclined to buy and have a little tinker with it before i become legal. So any suggestions?
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest that you'll last two weeks after you're licensed up before trading bikes.

Are you really suggesting that you might buy a supersports bike and then leave it sitting around depreciating and seizing up for 2 years? Sorry, I don't think this is a serious question.

SV650S, ER6-F, GSX650F or similar, an 35kW restrictor kit (or a "35kW honest" bit of paper), then ride it on your A2.

I know that's not what you want to hear.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what i can see roger came you sound advice, and yes you did make it sound like you were going to buy a big bike and leave it in a garage for 2 years.
Just go and buy the bike that you want, your unlikely to find the answers you want here.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The advice you get is only going to be as good as the information that you choose to give.

If you deliberately drip feed it and change your story every time, you'll get exactly the responses that you deserve.

So, what is it you're asking now? Ideal track bike for someone who chooses to ride a 125 day-to-day?
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy my first bike, any advice?? Reply with quote

wilkesy3 wrote:
Hi Guys,

I currently only possess a CBT liscense and own a 2013 Honda CBR 125 (which may I say is a beautiful bike) but I am looking at buying a bike for when I have passed my DAS and was wondering what suggestions you guys may have?

I prefer my sports bike range so think I will be looking in that genre but am open to suggestions.

I heard very good things about the Daytona 675 and absolutely love the Honda CBR range, but I'm sure there are others out there! Any suggestions or advice would be muchly appreciated.


Im sorry, how is this in drips and drabs? I mentioned what liscense i got now and that i was looking for a bike for when i completed my DAS. If youve choose not to read that, thats not my fault.

Listen mate like i said im not here to have an arguement, so thanks for your advice but unfortunately it hasnt been very helpful for what i need.

I just wanted a bit of info on a good first bike so i can start getting my research done as im sure 2 years will come round before i know it. Most likely i wont buy anything yet as im sure bikes will drop in price, and there will be more available over the next few years, but it cant harm having a look at different bikes and prices, so i can get a good idea on how much the things going to cost me and how dear the insurance is going to be.

Please, if you dont have anything productive to say regarding the above, then can you just not post anything else on this thread.

Thanks
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, used bikes are still going out of the country by the lorryload and new sales are still in the doldrums so prices won't go down, they'll probably go up.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot can change in 2 years....I wouldnt even bother looking or getting advice for another 18 months.

If someone pipes up and says "you MUST get a GSXR1000 at ALL costs" what exactly are you going to do about it?
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilkesy3 wrote:
And no im not saying im going to just stick the bike in the garage to sieze up, i didnt realise i had to have a full liscense to ride around a track...? Or maybe you didnt think about that?
Maybe you didn't think to tell us that - Roger gave you perfectly useful and wise advice based on what you posted initially Thinking Theres no need to be rude and obnoxious when people are taking the time to respond to your post.

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Also i dont see the point buying a bike to have for two years that i am restricted in choice, then having to go though the bother of selling it and then buying the bike i really want....
Compared to what most people will experience as 'bother' being stuck on a 125 after experiencing a bigger bike and knowing they could ride one the same day if it appeared in their garage, i'd say its worth it even if its two years.

If you get an well used CB500 or something similar it will hold its value, even gain a bit if you smarten it up a bit - should be fairly bulletproof unless you take the first piece of junk you come across, and will give you a nice learning curve before jumping straight onto a bigger sports bike as you ideally want [not that its nescessarily dangerous to do within reason, I went from 125-636cc personally].

It also means if you have any drops or offs in your first years on the bigger bike getting used to having more power and speed you aren't going to smash up a nice shiny faired bike thats going to cost a ton to prepare.

Set category to A2 and you have a list of all the stuff that would be available to you https://www.dft.gov.uk/motorcycle-test-vehicle-list/
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no.....HOLD ONNNNNNN......

OP sign up date: 25th february 2014.


Hmmmmmm...I wonder who this could be?
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puma yeah i see what your sayimg, but if someone said i had to get such amd such a bike it would mean that i could start looking at different prices and trying to find out what i need to look at in that particular bike. Im just trying to gather as much information as possible so i can start making an informative decision.

And matt, yeah it may have come over as obnoxious which, roger, i apologise, but his comment about my question not being a serious one was unnecersary also..

But yeah make what you said does make sense, its just ive bought this brand new honda and i really dont want to part with it! :p thanks for your input tho i will look around for the 500 and take a look through the a2 bike list and see if i can bring myself to givimg up my cbr a bit earlier than planned.

Sorry if i offended anyone but thanks for the input you have given its much appreciated! Smile
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 25 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilkesy3 wrote:
its just ive bought this brand new honda and i really dont want to part with it! :p thanks for your input tho i will look around for the 500 and take a look through the a2 bike list and see if i can bring myself to givimg up my cbr a bit earlier than planned.
If its because you love the bike and it satisfies your requirements by all means i'd keep riding it. But I suspect as with most people in the same situation its because you spent a fair bit on it, its lost a fair bit of value since, and now selling it seems a bit of a waste in some respects.

I wasn't in all that different a situation - I didn't buy brand new luckily, but paid a fair whack for a low mileage good condition used YZF R125 as at the time it was obviously 'THE BEST BIKE EVER' as far as I was concerned and able to ride, and I convinced myself i'd get my moneys worth Whistle. Two years, many miles and a test later I realised it wasn't enough and sold it for a loss.

Personally I would say just sell it and accept you lost a bit, move on - theres no point making yourself suffer and not enjoy riding to 'get your moneys worth'. You will almost definately enjoy the next bike more, whether its A2 restricted or waiting for the bigger bike.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest after riding the mto3 it made me realise how smooth a ride my bike actually is, and weather it goes 100 mph or does 0-60 in1 second at the moment really doesnt bother me.

I think it is in my best interest insurance wise and experiance wise to keep it a couple more years, then look for a bike once i have my full liscense. Although i will see what is out there for my A2 restrictions and play it by ear.

I suppose i could have more than one bike anyway if i want to hold onto my cbr...

Everytime i see it in my garage i still cant believe that i own the thing! Ive got the repsol colouring and it is just gorgeous! Even people with the likes of R1's and GSXRs turn there head when i drive past!

Thanks for your help tho mate!
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilkesy3 wrote:
Ive got the repsol colouring and it is just gorgeous! Even people with the likes of R1's and GSXRs turn there head when i drive past!
Can't quite believe the horror they've witnessed Wink?

Joking aside though, check quotes - you might not pay much more for a larger bike - you might even end up paying less than the new CBR, as insurance seems to works in funny nonsensical ways.

Try thebikeinsurer.co.uk , wickedquotes.com , and the other usual comparison sites which i've heard other people on here have had success with sometimes. If you shop around, ring up/email and haggle about with insurance it will save you more than anything else a lot of the time.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe it or not 125's can often be more expensive to insure than bigger bikes, especially sport rep's.
But hey at least its a honda 125 that's still built to honda standard's
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilkesy3 wrote:


Everytime i see it in my garage i still cant believe that i own the thing! Ive got the repsol colouring and it is just gorgeous! Even people with the likes of R1's and GSXRs turn there head when i drive past!

Thanks for your help tho mate!


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PostPosted: 01:15 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah okay thats good to know i will have a little look on the insurance then! And haha matty i love it and thats all that matters! :p and you know what kerr mechanically it really is beautiful, ive even had 89mph out of it! :o

Thanks tho guy!
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilkesy3 wrote:
Hi Guys,

I currently own a 2013 Honda CBR 125


wilkesy3 wrote:
Ive got the repsol colouring and it is just gorgeous! Even people with the likes of R1's and GSXRs turn there head when i drive past!


wilkesy3 wrote:
ive even had 89mph out of it! :o



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PostPosted: 06:10 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilkesy3 wrote:
Everytime i see it in my garage i still cant believe that i own the thing! Ive got the repsol colouring and it is just gorgeous! Even people with the likes of R1's and GSXRs turn there head when i drive past!


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