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PostPosted: 09:39 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Exhaust exit - why on the right? Reply with quote

Mrs Monkeypony and I were chatting bikes last night, and neither of us could think of a single bike that comes from the factory with the exhaust mounted on the left hand side of the bike (other than those with twin pipes of course)

Is there any actual reason for this, or is it just one of those things that just becomes fashion and never changes?

The only reason we could come up with was if you're holding the brake with your right foot and your left foot slips, the bike will come down on the non-exhaust side... Thinking
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a ktm 690 SMC?
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe to be on the opposite side to the chain.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fladdem wrote:
What about a ktm 690 SMC?


Nice one! I couldn't think of any!

Any others?

Snorty wrote:
Maybe to be on the opposite side to the chain.


Yea, but why? it's not an issue for bikes with twin pipes.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do get left mounted exhausts, as well as a pipe either side, but isn't it to stop cooking your leg when mounting and dismounting?
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its because the side stand is on the left (No idea why that's on the left though) and to get on and off the bike you get on from the left side.

The exhaust goes on the right to stop you burning your leg on it whilst getting on and off.

VFR 400 / RVF 400 has a left hand side exhaust. Possibly something to do with the single sided swing-arm - not to sure.

But that's the only thing I can think of anyway.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure some BMW's have them? Confused
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

0l0dom0l0 wrote:
Its because the side stand is on the left (No idea why that's on the left though)...


Maybe it's to do with mounting horses. Is it standard to mount a horse from the left?
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

0l0dom0l0 wrote:
Its because the side stand is on the left (No idea why that's on the left though) and to get on and off the bike you get on from the left side.

The sidestand will be on the left because we drive on the left, so will be embarking/disembarking the vehicle on the left side (pavement side) rather than the right side (live traffic side).
With the sidestand sensibly on the left for that reason, it makes sense to have the exhaust on the right, so that we don't come in to contact with it when getting on/off.

Simples.

Edit: But I'm not sure if countries that drive on the right have the sidestand on the other side or not? Maybe not so simples!


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PostPosted: 10:29 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

so wouldnt bikes from europe ect be built the other way round as they drive on the right
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I edited the same time as you pointed that out Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Maybe it's to do with mounting horses. Is it standard to mount a horse from the left?


This would make sense.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:
I'm sure some BMW's have them? Confused


This one even has NO sidestand! Laughing

https://www.motorbikespecifications.com/wp-content/gallery/bmw/bmw-moto-31.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Maybe it's to do with mounting horses. Is it standard to mount a horse from the left?

I thought you mount a horse from the rear
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:


Nice one! I couldn't think of any!

Any others?


BMW R1150R
BMW F800R/ST/GS
Moto Guzzi 8V
Husqvarna TE610

I believe exhausts are typically mounted on the opposite side of the chain or in some cases under the seat and out the way because...
(taking an educated guess here) it may be designed this way so that there's no need to remove your exhaust or work around it to change your chain and sprockets, as chain and sprockets wear on every bike and always need replacing at some point.

As for exhausts being on the opposite side of shaft and belt driven bikes, I have no idea.


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PostPosted: 10:46 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

az- wrote:
BMW R1150R
BMW F800R/ST/GS
Moto Guzzi 8V
Husqvarna TE610

I believe exhausts are typically mounted on the opposite side of the chain or in some cases under the seat and out the way because...
(taking an educated guess here) it may be designed this way so that there's no need to remove your exhaust or work around it to change your chain and sprockets, as chain and sprockets wear on every bike and always need replacing at some point.

As for exhausts being on the opposite side of shaft and belt driven bikes, I have no idea.


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PostPosted: 10:52 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:
I'm sure some BMW's have them? Confused

Mine does, I can't fathom why. OK, it's routed so that it's not in the way, but there doesn't seem to be any reason for it. If anything, it's putting more high-up weight on the inside when it's on the side-stand, which is the last thing these bikes need.

This is a marque which up until recently persisted with a user-hostile 3 button indicator system, remember. Perhaps they just hate their customers?
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it is to do with not having the exhaust/fumes facing into the pavement.
For example, this is a left hand drive Iveco Daily
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Iveco_Daily_35S11_z_boku.jpg

If you notice the exhaust does not exit on the offside of the vehicle (or nearside in this case) so will not be pointing onto the kerb in a left hand drive country.

This one, the exhaust is on the offside and faces away from the kerb as it is a RHD vehicle
https://images.carltonmotorco.co.uk/vehicles/iveco-daily-40c14-minibus-cd359ac0d4d155aa1fc393e4f717c254-640x480.jpg

In essence I believe that is the reason Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

az- wrote:

As for exhausts being on the opposite side of shaft and belt driven bikes, I have no idea.

Could it be to balance the weight?
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a bike with a single sided swingarm, the exhaust OUGHT to be either tucked up high or on the left.

As is the case with the RC30.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/RC30_RHF_1024.jpg

The whole point of a single sided swingarm being that you can quickly and easily remove the wheel without disturbing anything else.

If there is an exhaust in the way, this becomes difficult.

Honda obviously didn't consider this when making the standard, roadgoing versions of the VFR which require removal of the exhaust to get the wheel out. They have shown that it is entirely possible to bend up a left hand exit system for this bike (and you can buy an aftermarket LHS exit pipe for them too) but for some reason chose not to.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/IMG_0744.jpg

As such, the BMW posted by Doovy, while having a left exit pipe, it also made of fail because it's STILL in the way of removing the back wheel which attaches on the other side on Euro bikes.

Should also be noted that European bikes tend to have the drive on the right, brake on the left. Japanese and British are traditionally the other way round. I believe this dates back to the fitting of sidecar brakes for driving on the left or right.

I suspect the exhaust convention might be something similar, you want the exhaust on the opposite side to the sidecar.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not all chains are on the left.. Some are on the right hand side, the same as the exhaust..
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

pits wrote:
I believe it is to do with not having the exhaust/fumes facing into the pavement.


This ^^
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
pits wrote:
I believe it is to do with not having the exhaust/fumes facing into the pavement.


This ^^


But then what about in European countries?
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too think Pits is right!

You certainly wouldn't want a flame spitting monster engined vehicle with the exhaust on the pavement side, or a screamer pipe aimed at the kerb!
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 26 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Wr125X had chain and chimney on the right hand side.
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