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Joe EaziGrip
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Braided radiator water hoses ?? Reply with quote

Hi all
i was thinking about getting braided water hoses for my triumph street triple. but i can only seem to find the in american, but personally i think they look damn hot, do you think they are worth getting ?? or have any of you got them on ???
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally people tend to buy Samco hoses as they are meant to improve flow and dissipate heat better than OEM.

SFS Performance are meant to be good.

If your current hoses are in good condition, have you thought of just getting some Braided Cable/Pipe/Hose Sleeving?
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have but i can't help that there just make it look more and more like a street fighter. And they really do look awesome
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Braided hoses are pointless on coolant applications. You want a little bit of 'give' in the hoses. Samco sport ones are the ones to go for to be honest. They don't have the same look but they are the best quality radiator hoses you can get.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry mate, i cant help but disagree as brake line are made out of the same stuff and they seem to work just fine, so is it not the same principal ???
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe EaziGrip wrote:
sorry mate, i cant help but disagree as brake line are made out of the same stuff and they seem to work just fine, so is it not the same principal ???



Brake lines stand up to huge pressure, the braiding helps them resist expansion.

Coolant hoses stand up to a low amount of pressure. The braiding helps them look nice.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

But i have seen a few bikes with them on and never heard of any problems before?
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubt you'll have issues, it is just that the main benefit is to look purdy.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you trying to match the look of the water hoses to the brake lines?
Its a personal choice of course but its not for me.
Triples are cool enough without all that shizzle. Cool
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sfs are same quality as samco at a fraction of the price. I replaced a set on my old impreza as they was cheaper than 1 oem hose that i needed. I can understand them on high hp vehicles and dragsters but overkill on normal stuff unless you a tart.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe EaziGrip wrote:
sorry mate, i cant help but disagree as brake line are made out of the same stuff and they seem to work just fine, so is it not the same principal ???


Sorry mate I can't help but disagree as you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between a hydraulic system and a fluid flow based cooling system. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to have the feeling you are looking far to into it mate, as there have clearly been used before and clearly proven to work
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe EaziGrip wrote:
I seem to have the feeling you are looking far to into it mate, as there have clearly been used before and clearly proven to work


Have you any idea what the braiding is for?
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your standard cooling hoses have been proven to work.

The reason you may want to fit braided lines to your brakes are because, when you pull the lever, the pressure forces the piston in the calliper to move.

Soft hoses mean that instead of all that force going straight to the piston, some is wasted in flexing the hose. Braided lines prevent this.

Your cooling system has no such issues, so you will gain no benefit..

But if you want to fit them 'cos it looks bling, that's fine too.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you monkeypony ! this is what i was looking for not really after any benefit.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only good reason to use braided coolant hoses is for the appearance, if you like the look of it. SO in answer to your question, I do not think they are worth getting.

For thermal performance, elastic resiliance, strength, high heat tolerance and resistance to age degradation, silicone is undoubtedly the material of choice. Available in a variety of colours for the tarts out there.

If you just want the look of braided steel, you can buy overbraid very cheaply that slides over the existing hoses.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-Steel-OverBraid-Braided-Hose-Cover-6mm-15mm-/290576775033?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a7b9b779
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the betting that the OP fits these braided steel hoses, it rains and then they turn brown with rust?
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe EaziGrip wrote:
I seem to have the feeling you are looking far to into it mate, as there have clearly been used before and clearly proven to work


I have the feeling you are not hearing exactly what you want to hear.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe EaziGrip wrote:
I seem to have the feeling you are looking far to into it mate, as there have clearly been used before and clearly proven to work


It's been proven that you can ride to work on a unicycle. Doesn't mean its the best/easiest/most sensible way of doing it.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think the OP understands that braided coolant hoses 'appear to work' because they have little or no effect on the component's performance.

Basically, it's tart. Chintz. Appearance. Style over substance. Go ahead and use it, no one's stopping you. They might even look nice. But just be aware that braided coolant hoses are seen on bikes because some think they look nice. Not because they actually make your coolant flow better.

Is this what happens when the more miscellaneous types of bike parts start floating ominously into 'powerband' territory? You know, when people start thinking they can achieve performance gains through seat cowls and wavy rotors?
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadwolf wrote:
Basically, it's tart. Chintz. Appearance. Style over substance. Go ahead and use it, no one's stopping you.


Which, to be fair to OP, is exactly what he said he was after half a dozen posts ago.

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PostPosted: 14:51 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:
deadwolf wrote:
Basically, it's tart. Chintz. Appearance. Style over substance. Go ahead and use it, no one's stopping you.


Which, to be fair to OP, is exactly what he said he was after half a dozen posts ago.

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this is what i was looking for not really after any benefit


Hmm yeah, perhaps I was being a bit harsh. The thread direction seemed to veer off towards the functional side of things. IMO BCF is more function-over-form, which is also why I tend not to ask appearance-related questions here Laughing

If it's for looks, it'll depend on the rest of the bike. More minor details like coolant hoses are highlights and can make or break the bike's image, but once again it's just far too subjective to give a straight answer. I'd suggest the OP gets the overbraid stuff and try it. If it ends up looking like crud just take it off Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was only asking the question about peoples thought on them didn't really need the harsh comments but i thank you all for your input and if your all lucky i might get a picture of them on my bike and post it Wink ride safe
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rowey wrote:

If your current hoses are in good condition, have you thought of just getting some Braided Cable/Pipe/Hose Sleeving?


stinkwheel wrote:

If you just want the look of braided steel, you can buy overbraid very cheaply that slides over the existing hoses.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stainless-Steel-OverBraid-Braided-Hose-Cover-6mm-15mm-/290576775033?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a7b9b779


+1

It's easy OP. I did it to my oil lines because I wanted too. You just need to try and make the ends look tidy by crimping the connections over the top. Or just bodging it like I did:
https://p1.bikepics.com/2013/09/10/bikepics-2596553-full.jpg
https://p1.bikepics.com/2013/09/10/bikepics-2596559-full.jpg
^ive now painted that rusty Embarassed cooler bracket now before anyone criticises Wink
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PostPosted: 05:28 - 05 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should look at an iridium screen also Thumbs Up
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