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Marcg868
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PostPosted: 04:00 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: What will he get.... Reply with quote

A mate (not a close one) is due in court for the following.

Driving not in accordance with licence (riding big bike on provisional)

No insurance due to the above, which voids the policy.

Speeding 75mph in a 50 zone.

I reckon hefty fine and 6 month ban. It is his first driving offence.

And yes he has been told he's a cock.
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PostPosted: 06:53 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

74 points, $3800 fine (yes dollars).
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PostPosted: 07:01 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 09:44 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he goes in looking like a Chav, with a blotchy legged girlfriend and 3 kids the judge will probably let him off completely if you believe the Daily Mail.
But he will get bum raped for such blatant kitten killing! Smile
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is any justice, a four figure fine, 6-12 points and a ban.

Unless he stole it in which case they'll probably pay for a taxi home and sign him up for an outward bound course.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If there is any justice, a four figure fine, 6-12 points and a ban.


So he'll get let off with a tenner, a slap on the wrist and maybe three points if he's been really naughty.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

12 points, a free set of shot glasses, and a ban! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully the judge will rape him raw for being such a potato.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was pretty lucky....

prov licence, clr125, passenger, no l-plates, busted rear light lens, 60 in a 30.

Dealt with at the side of the road.

3 points LC20
Bike towed.

That was a long time ago though.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

How on earth did he think he would not get caught..?
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: What will he get.... Reply with quote

Depends on how good his legal people are.
The fact you are asking here suggests a reasonable bit.
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: What will he get.... Reply with quote

bwfc4eva86 wrote:
I reckon hefty fine and 6 month ban. It is his first driving offence.


I'd think realistically that's about the best outcome he can hope for.
If we were running a 'what will he get' sweepstake I'd be happy if I picked the half a grand ticket.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got caught at 87 in a 50 and recieved 6 points and a £400 fine plus costs.

Speeding by a similar amount but obviously there's the lack of licence and insurance to take in to account too.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

All depends on the circumstances, what he says in court etc. BUT - looking at the guidelines :

https://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk/docs/MCSG_Update9_October_2012.pdf

he's probably looking at a ban of around 3 months and a band C fine, which is around 150% of his weekly income. That would come down to 100% if he pleads guilty at the first opportunity. He would then have to pay costs (usually £85 if he pleads guilty) and a "victim surcharge" which is £20 or more, depending on the size of the fine.

If there's any suggestion that he's done it before, anyone was injured or other aggravating factors, that could go up quite a bit.

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PostPosted: 15:16 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: What will he get.... Reply with quote

bwfc4eva86 wrote:
No insurance due to the above, which voids the policy.

I'd be minded to argue the toss on that one, or at least agree to go guilty on the other charges if they drop it.

At least, if he's represented or can string a cogent argument together about RTA 1988 S153 (3) voiding the insurer's attempt to void the cover. So possibly not.

3 to 6 for the license, up to £1000.
6 to 8 for the insurance, up to £2500.
3 to 6 for the speed, up to £1000.

Ban and up to £4500.

Being licensed didn't stop him riding before though; why would it stop him now?
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of my mates was recently done for drink driving without insurance

got £100 fine and 18 month ban

and me repeatedly calling him a dick
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking from experience - I got done for;

Riding outside of accordance of my licence (caught without 33bhp restrictors

No insurance due to the above.

Speeding 137+mph in a 70 zone.

List of previous other offences including a ban and still within first 2 years of license.

54 day ban and £400 fine + £65 costs if my memory serves me correctly.

No legal representation, just turned up in a shirt and tie and said sorry Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinigami wrote:
one of my mates was recently done for drink driving without insurance

got £100 fine and 18 month ban

and me repeatedly calling him a dick


That just takes the piss....I got £60 fine for driving in a bus lane for 10 seconds....he gets £100 for having no insurance and driving pissed up. Disgusting.

I dont see how fining someone £100 for having no insurance is going to make them buy insurance in the future? Its cheaper to have no insurance and hope not to get pulled more than twice a year than actually forking out for insurance and being legit.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although this guy got 6 points on his new license (so has to retake his tests) and a £500 fine for splashing kids with a puddle Laughing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2575010/New-driver-22-banned-road-fined-500-splashing-children-way-school.html
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groove wrote:
Speaking from experience - I got done for;

Riding outside of accordance of my licence (caught without 33bhp restrictors


How did they prove that? From what I have read on here, nobody ever gets caught for that so I guess you admitted it without them testing the engine output?
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

guile wrote:
Groove wrote:
Speaking from experience - I got done for;

Riding outside of accordance of my licence (caught without 33bhp restrictors


How did they prove that? From what I have read on here, nobody ever gets caught for that so I guess you admitted it without them testing the engine output?


Erm, well doing 137mph at the time tends to hint at a tad over 33bhp on tap Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
Shinigami wrote:
one of my mates was recently done for drink driving without insurance

got £100 fine and 18 month ban

and me repeatedly calling him a dick


That just takes the piss....I got £60 fine for driving in a bus lane for 10 seconds....he gets £100 for having no insurance and driving pissed up. Disgusting.

I dont see how fining someone £100 for having no insurance is going to make them buy insurance in the future? Its cheaper to have no insurance and hope not to get pulled more than twice a year than actually forking out for insurance and being legit.


the fine is based on income I believe, of which he has none, and hasn't for over a year as he's become seriously lazy, wasn't even his car, was his mums
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

guile wrote:
Groove wrote:
Speaking from experience - I got done for;

Riding outside of accordance of my licence (caught without 33bhp restrictors


How did they prove that? From what I have read on here, nobody ever gets caught for that so I guess you admitted it without them testing the engine output?


Along with being power restricted, the speed must be limited to a ton aswell i think...?
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:

Along with being power restricted, the speed must be limited to a ton aswell i think...?

Nope; just that without some probably-illegal-anyway stupidly aerodynamic fairings, 100mph is about the speed 33hp gets you.
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