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5v3d3b0
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: What happens if you back out after accepting a job? Reply with quote

Here's the potential situation I may find myself in soon:
I'm currently doing interviews and assessment centers etc for 2 companies, let's call them A and B.
I would MUCH rather work for company A, but I'm currently further along in the process for company B.
Because I don't have many jobs on the go and I really need to get something, it would be very difficult to turn down any offer.
What if company B offers me a job before I get word from A?
If I accept their offer to start in September, and then get an offer from my preferred company before then, what could happen if I back out from B's offer?
I know it's unfair on other candidates that could have got that job but when it's something as big as the start of my career I can't just go with a job that I'll enjoy much less if I have the chance for something better..
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typically it comes down to whether or not they've got your signature on a contract or not. If not then you may get some huffing and puffing but nothing more. You can probably string company B along a bit discussing contractual technicalities etc before you actually accept, giving company A some time to make you an offer if they're going to.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush etc, so don't take the piss too much or you may end up with no job.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing they can do, it's your career. They won't be happy for sure but that's how it goes. It's happened a few times at my work recently.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends if you ever want to work with them in the future.

As it may burn bridges and as above who says you're going to get the 2nd job anyway?


I went through this in Jan, had 4 job offers one solid one, one I wanted more and I delayed them for a bit. I ended up with the one I least wanted.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah basically if B offers me a job I have to accept it because of how hard it is to get anything at all. But if I then got an actual offer from A I'd find it difficult to reject as I want it so much more. B isn't even the grad scheme I wanted, so I'd have to finish it just to be able to move horizontally in the organization...
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing they can do, even if you've signed some sort of contract, so just phone them, apologise that your personal circumstances have changed and you won't be able to take up the job after all. Wish them the best and move on.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a serious question?

Your contract will spell out the notice period that you have to give them.

Give them that.

If it turns out that your "end" date is after your "start" date, they're hardly going to demand that you come in for a week, are they?
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well a friend of mine recently did an assessment centre for an engineering firm and it was highly likely that he would get an offer from them before Airbus (his dream job) would have a chance to evaluate the results of their assessment centre. He was under the impression that accepting the first job would legally bind him and the company could potentially seek damages if he backed out after accepting.
I'm gonna speak to the career centre at my university to make sure I know exactly what I'm getting myself in to.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've not signed the contract stating start of employment and notice period etc, then you don't actually work for company B so there is nothing they can do.

Try to be respectful about it if you tell them you're backing out of accepting the job, explain that it is due to a change in personal circumstances, and that you are grateful of being given the opportunity to work there etc and hope that should your situation change you hope it may be possible to return etc. Much better to avoid burning the bridges, even if it doesn't keep the door open.


If company A offer you the job, explain that you have accepted a position with company B, but would prefer to take this new job at company A is there anything they can do to help, or would they keep the job open for you if you have already signed your contract at B and need to work a notice period.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you quit before you start, nothing happens. Nada, nothing zilch. Happens all the time. It's a massive pain in the arse when you are trying to recruit
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
He was under the impression that accepting the first job would legally bind him and the company could potentially seek damages if he backed out after accepting.

Was this job in a region where slavery is legal?

You're free to hand in your notice on day 1. Why would it be any different doing it on day -30?
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would company b just offer the job to the next best candidate?
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PostPosted: 02:58 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Svedebo wrote:
He was under the impression that accepting the first job would legally bind him and the company could potentially seek damages if he backed out after accepting.

Was this job in a region where slavery is legal?

You're free to hand in your notice on day 1. Why would it be any different doing it on day -30?


Because on day -30 you may well not have signed a contract of employment.

If you call them up the day before you're due to start, and you were supposed to sign the contract on your first day, i.e. the next day, then you aren't legally bound to a notice period.

So you'll be telling them you're not taking the job, rather than issuing notice that you will resign.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
Well a friend of mine recently did an assessment centre for an engineering firm and it was highly likely that he would get an offer from them before Airbus (his dream job) would have a chance to evaluate the results of their assessment centre. He was under the impression that accepting the first job would legally bind him and the company could potentially seek damages if he backed out after accepting.
I'm gonna speak to the career centre at my university to make sure I know exactly what I'm getting myself in to.


I'm going to be starting at Rolls Royce in July, I'm currently working on my final year at uni. Even though my starting date and all that has been confirmed, I have not yet signed a contract of employment as that happens on the first day. Therefore, I can still back out right now as I have not yet agreed to any contract, I imagine it will be similar at wherever you're looking at going to.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a grad scheme and you back out, they'll have a reserve list anyway.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah fair enough, I got an email from Toyota saying something along the lines of no but maybe if more positions are available. It was all very ambiguous Confused
So maybe in the case of a few people dropping out they would call up people like me who did well but not quite top of the pack
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 10 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look out for number 1 first then worry about the agency which has a long list of names they can replace you with at the drop of a hat.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 10 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm about to do something similar.

However... I had the good sense not to sign anything from job A until job B gave me a contract Wink .
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 11 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
I'm about to do something similar.

However... I had the good sense not to sign anything from job A until job B gave me a contract Wink .


All very well if it works out that way, but if you don't know where you are with the job you would rather take, and you don't know how long the offer of the other job is on the table, most people would take the safe option of securing a job, rather than gamble and hope you get the preferred job
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