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 Posted: 13:59 - 14 Mar 2014 Post subject: What bike thread #47,864.5 |
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Sold my XR, still undecided about what to get next. Everyday it seems to be a different bike :?
What I want from it:
- Upright riding position or at least fairly upright
- As lightweight as possible
- Fairly narrow and a fairly small wheelbase, for filtering but also getting it into the garden, it was a bit of a squeeze with the XR
- Not sure on power, but something that's easy to ride around town, as that's where I'll mainly be using it
Budgets more what I'm willing to spend than what's in the piggy bank, but insurance is going to be the biggest factor, even tho I have a years NCD & full license now. IF I have to stay 3rd party (F&T) I'm not happy spending more than 2.5k
Bikes I've considered:
DRZ400SM - ticks all the boxes, apart from being too expensive for what they're, and maybe a bit big for me (would need to sit on one)
Hornet 600 - one of the last previous gen' models (05/06) or maybe the current gen'. Expensive to buy and insure, and probably too powerful for what I need, but I really really like them.
CRF250M - have a soft spot for these for some reason, I'm going to have a test ride on one soon as my license comes back. Downside's I'd probably have to buy a new one (3.5k) and therefore insurance will be a lot. Dunno that 23bhp will be powerful enough but I'll find that out on the test ride hopefully.
Other considerations:
GPZ500 - don't like the styling but they tick a lot of boxes
Bandit 600 - weigh the same as a small planet but I feel I have some unfinished business with this bike after taking my test(s) on it
Ducati Monster - think you'd only buy one for the badge & I don't really care about that, they look good (not just aesthetically) but expensive to run
BMW G650 xcountry/moto - like both, but they're rare & expensive, plus the xmoto might be a bit big
KTM Duke 390 - like everything but the price tag, and insurance
DT125x - if I ever see one of these at a reasonable price I'm buying it regardless :D ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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 Posted: 15:10 - 14 Mar 2014 Post subject: Re: What bike thread #47,864.5 |
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| MC wrote: | Sold my XR, still undecided about what to get next. Everyday it seems to be a different bike
What I want from it:
- Upright riding position or at least fairly upright
- As lightweight as possible
- Fairly narrow and a fairly small wheelbase, for filtering but also getting it into the garden, it was a bit of a squeeze with the XR
- Not sure on power, but something that's easy to ride around town, as that's where I'll mainly be using it
Budgets more what I'm willing to spend than what's in the piggy bank, but insurance is going to be the biggest factor, even tho I have a years NCD & full license now. IF I have to stay 3rd party (F&T) I'm not happy spending more than 2.5k
Bikes I've considered:
DRZ400SM - ticks all the boxes, apart from being too expensive for what they're, and maybe a bit big for me (would need to sit on one)
Hornet 600 - one of the last previous gen' models (05/06) or maybe the current gen'. Expensive to buy and insure, and probably too powerful for what I need, but I really really like them.
CRF250M - have a soft spot for these for some reason, I'm going to have a test ride on one soon as my license comes back. Downside's I'd probably have to buy a new one (3.5k) and therefore insurance will be a lot. Dunno that 23bhp will be powerful enough but I'll find that out on the test ride hopefully.
Other considerations:
GPZ500 - don't like the styling but they tick a lot of boxes
Bandit 600 - weigh the same as a small planet but I feel I have some unfinished business with this bike after taking my test(s) on it
Ducati Monster - think you'd only buy one for the badge & I don't really care about that, they look good (not just aesthetically) but expensive to run
BMW G650 xcountry/moto - like both, but they're rare & expensive, plus the xmoto might be a bit big
KTM Duke 390 - like everything but the price tag, and insurance
DT125x - if I ever see one of these at a reasonable price I'm buying it regardless  |
No idea what they are like, but I've seen a few CCM 604's advertised lately. Might be worth a look, as apparently the Rotax engine is good, and maybe it's the sort of bike that is overlooked and under-rated? Also check out my thread (can't remember where it is now - something like singles vs triples vs IL4s). Lots of opinions on there about middle-weight commuters and such. |
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Looked at CCM's, mainly reliability & parts seem to be the issue, maybe good as a second bike when you don't need to rely on it. Seen the MT-03 was mentioned in your thread too. That sort of thing would be ideal, but they're a hell of a lot of money for what they're. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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 Posted: 17:19 - 14 Mar 2014 Post subject: Re: What bike thread #47,864.5 |
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| MC wrote: | DRZ400SM - ticks all the boxes, apart from being too expensive for what they're, and maybe a bit big for me (would need to sit on one) |
People are asking silly money for them, and they're in demand. I'm stalking them myself and have seen a few Gumtree ads with folk looking to swap their sportsbike for a supermoto.
I've been test-sitting some SMs of a similar size and it feels OK having one foot on the ground and t'other on a peg on a bike that light.
| MC wrote: | CRF250M [...] probably have to buy a new one (3.5k) |
Try £4300 + OTR. That's getting into silly money.
| MC wrote: | BMW G650 xcountry/moto - like both, but they're rare & expensive, plus the xmoto might be a bit big |
Dunno what you mean. There's the regular G650GS and the Sertão. Go back a few years and you get the F650GS, essentially the same bike, possibly even better built (if the forks don't fall off). The regular one is low and very easy to ride, but they get vibey at speed. Not a consideration around town though.
| MC wrote: | KTM Duke 390 - like everything but the price tag, and insurance |
Wouldn't touch a 125/200/390 without a BOGOF deal on a 2nd one to use as a donor vehicle.
| MC wrote: | DT125x - if I ever see one of these at a reasonable price I'm buying it regardless  |
'kin hell, I start looking for supermotos at the same time as everybody else in the country.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Kawasaki ER6, I can't remember if they're wide bikes but they are a twin so can't be that wide or heavy. Has the upright position, within budget and I also believe they're cheap to insure.
What you want in a bike, seems to describe an SM… Light, thin, upright, narrow and not too powerful. As for which SM you can get within budget and is good for commuting I would't really know as I know fookall about SM's.
The only SM I can think of that i've seen out and about on my commute is an XT660X, unsure of how capable or good of a bike they are though. A quick look on gumtree also suggests they are within budget.
I also think any il4 will be hard to get into your garden if your XR struggled. Typically il4 commuter bikes are pretty heavy bikes but, if you do end up considering an il4, the XJ6's don't look too bad and even though i've only had a brief ride on one (2008 XJ6N), it didn't seem to be intimidating or too powerful for a new rider. |
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Can you find a bike that's wider than its bars or mirrors?
Find bars that will go up your back passage sideways, fit them onto whatever bike you want. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 Posted: 20:12 - 14 Mar 2014 Post subject: Re: What bike thread #47,864.5 |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | Try £4300 + OTR. That's getting into silly money. |
They're being discounted at a few dealers, yeah a bit more OTR, but you can buy them for 3.5/3.6k
| Rogerborg wrote: | Dunno what you mean. There's the regular G650GS and the Sertão. |
The X versions were only made for 2 or 3 years I think. The xCountry's my fav':
https://www.onewheeldrive.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/bmw_2007_g640x-country_7-895x600.jpg
xMoto:
https://image.motorcyclistonline.com/f/features/9904015/122_0804_03_z%2BBMW_G_650_Xmoto%2Bside_view.jpg
And there was an enduro ver.
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'kin hell, I start looking for supermotos at the same time as everybody else in the country.  |
Went for an XR over one and spent a year in 4-stroke misery It's something I hope to rectify at some point
Did consider an XT660x, think I'll struggle to find one on budget, and don't really want a high mileage dog if I'm spending thousands. ER6 & XJ6 don't really do anything for me, even tho I know the XJ6's meant to be nice.
Think I could get a big(ger) bike in, but it would take a million point turn. Not a deal breaker, just something to consider, if I can't get it in the garden then it will get nicked. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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