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PostPosted: 13:40 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: So I opened a kitchen cupboard... Reply with quote

And found this Shocked Its a floor level cupboard in the corner of the kitchen - it looks like its come through open section in the back of the cabinets from the wall. Lots of foam balls all stuck together until you crumble it.

Other flats in the block had cavity wall insulation done on Monday so i'm presuming its something to do with that Thinking scoop it out and leave it be, or something to worry about?
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an awful lot of disposable gloves...
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing they're for work - although not the rectal sort Shifty

Waiting on the letting company to ring back at the moment - the woman was 'on the phone' nearly an hour ago Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why your cupboard would open out directly into a cavity wall.

However I believe they do use expanded polystyrene beads for cavity wall insulation. They are supposed to use them with an adhesive so they stick together rather than coming out of any holes or gaps in the wall.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was wondering if perhaps they injected too much [if thats even possible] and its burst through a weak-point in our wall upstairs, the block of flats is a good 50-60 years old I think.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Was wondering if perhaps they injected too much [if thats even possible] and its burst through a weak-point in our wall upstairs, the block of flats is a good 50-60 years old I think.


That is almost definitely what happened. Well, weak point or tiny gap.

Scrape it up and be done.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:

Scrape it up and be done.


Effort... I'd just shove the long pointy bit of the vacuum cleaner in there.

(I have got very lazy with cleaning lately. When I completely cleared out the garage the other week I just vacuumed it cos I couldn't be bothered to sweep)
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished scraping and scooping it up with my hands and a dustpan and brush Laughing bloody things went everywhere. Left the bit thats leaked through the wall where it is so it should be 'sealed' hopefully.

Still no response from the estate agents - good to know they're there for a future emergency Rolling Eyes

Will wait for an email me informing the walls are packed with asbestos Whistle
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Still no response from the estate agents - good to know they're there for a future emergency Rolling Eyes


Hah! Once their commission's been made they want nothing more to do with tenants nor landlords. I've never met a nice estate agent.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure this was featured in a episode of the X Files. They're alien larvae. They'll burrow into your skin and cause huge erupting boils which will explode over your nearest and dearest infecting them in turn.

Those rubber gloves won't help you now!

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PostPosted: 14:50 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
Hah! Once their commission's been made they want nothing more to do with tenants nor landlords. I've never met a nice estate agent.
Pah, pessimism - i'm sure two hours later shes still busy on the same phonecall helping her valued customer Wink

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
They're alien larvae.
I did for a split second have a shock-moment of 'eggs Shocked' when I first opened it Embarassed
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too am cursed with polystyrene balls.

They can get through the tiniest of gaps.

Hoover them up, find the gap (which is almost certainly where your gas pipe is coming in through the wall from outside) and fill it in with frame sealant/mastic/caulk/putty/silicone/chewing gum.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're fucking alien eggs.

Burn them with fire before they hatch...
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:30 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd sort it before they start multiplying like tribbles.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought you had a blueberry infestation for a second, or some sorta expensive caviar disaster
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben-B wrote:


Effort... I'd just shove the long pointy bit of the vacuum cleaner in there.


Don't do this! They have amazing powers of cling (presumably from static) and you will find that it takes ages to get them out of your hoover!

(Yes I might have done this and binned the hoover after Embarassed )

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PostPosted: 17:09 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for the flamey petrol method of disposal.

You can't take the risk that any survive can you.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

shorty wrote:
Ben-B wrote:


Effort... I'd just shove the long pointy bit of the vacuum cleaner in there.


Don't do this! They have amazing powers of cling (presumably from static) and you will find that it takes ages to get them out of your hoover!

(Yes I might have done this and binned the hoover after Embarassed )

Shorty


This is why you need two hoovers. Then you can use the 2nd to hoover it out of the first one.

Not a problem if you've got a hoover with a bag, but thats not many people these days I don't think.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once opened a kitchen cupboard and found some maggots where a courgette once was. Sick

thinking quickly I took a pet rat from it's cage and put it in the cupboard for a few minutes, it ate the maggots for me, and I cleaned the shelf. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's coming through where the gas pipe is something is wrong as the pipe should be sleeved through the wall and sealed. The earth bonding is also in the wrong place if that's the meter in the corner and the soldering on that tee is terrible Smile
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't been able to check exactly where its coming from yet, will have to use one of those extendable cameras to peer in through the hole.

Its not the mete Razz but its all pretty shoddy. The kitchen was installed by the owners dad I beleve who it seems only knew half of what he was doing going by the fit and standard of everything Rolling Eyes

Gas and fire alarms are primed n ready at all times Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al wrote:
If it's coming through where the gas pipe is something is wrong as the pipe should be sleeved through the wall and sealed. The earth bonding is also in the wrong place if that's the meter in the corner and the soldering on that tee is terrible Smile


According to current building regs, possibly. But the OP has already stated the building is 50-60 years old.

Could be a water pipe too I suppose, I was going by the valve. There's some pretty horriffic gender and thread changes going down there too. Looks like it goes 22mm comp to 1/2"BSPmale into a 1/2"BSP female cock. Then a 1/2BSP male to 3/4BSP male nipple, a 3/4female to 3/4male iron, a 3/4female iron elbow then a 3/4male to 22mm compression straight coupling.

So six fittings to take a 22mm pipe through 90 degrees with a stopcock. So how do you think it goes through the wall?

They'll have knocked a half brick out with a hammer and chisel, shoved the pipe through, packed broken bits of said half brick back in around it to save on materials then skimmed over the outside of the hole with sandy mortar so it looks smooth and the rats can't get in.

On the inside course, with it being behind the kitchen cupboards, they'll have slapped a bit of plaster over it at best. At worst, they'll have just left a half-brick sized hole.

Standard 1950's building practices right there. Any subsequent replacement pipes will have been unceremoniously shoved/hammered in through the same hole.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP said it was a rented property so would need a landlords gas certificate, certain things where regs have changed over the years can be classified as 'not to currant standards' but an unsleeved gas pipe passing through a wall is classed as 'an unsafe situation' as far as I can remember whatever the regs were when the house was built.

To pass a 22mm gas pipe through a wall I'd drill a 30mm hole with an SDS drill, sleeve it with 28mm pipe and seal around it. It's to protect the pipe and in the event of a gas leak stop it filling the cavity with gas.
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