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Wonko The Sane
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Have I become fed up with biking old chap? Reply with quote

I only ever use the bike to commute, not a problem as that's what I bought it for but I've driven twice this week, once on Monday and once today knowing there's a possibility of being stuck in traffic.

It takes about the same time to get to work by bike as it does car by the time I've started the bike, got my gear on, opened the gate, kick-stand up, safety switch pulled out, out the gate, stand down, close gate, stand up, safety switch pulled out again etc.

I also have a slightly un-settled moment or slippy moment every day on the bike, normally turning right. Perhaps the ZZR is too heavy / bulky or just the wrong style of bike for me but it's not worth selling to replace with another bike until I've finished my restriction towards the end of the year as I'd have to restrict whatever I got.

Just seen a car I've always wanted in good condition at a good price, tax exempt and insurance less than the bike and it's tempting. It'll need maintenance as often as the bike does, but somehow I'm happier doing my own work on cars than bikes.

I do enjoy being on the bike, just feels like a faff some days and as the wife is on maternity leave still, the car is often available for use.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:47 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm, no

if I do change bikes it's not going to be a cruiser

Most of my commute is motorway filtering and I don't like cruisers.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:
erm, no

if I do change bikes it's not going to be a cruiser

Most of my commute is motorway filtering and I don't like cruisers.


Giving up biking, or talking like you are thinking about it is even more ghey than buying a cruiser. At least they are biking. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact you only use it for commuting is probably what is killing it.
How often do you ride for fun?

Slipping? id be looking at suspension or better tyres.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same boat, as much as I want the bike to start working, I really couldn't give a fuck on the other hand Laughing

I think it is commuting that has killed it for me, I'm missing something in my biking life but I'm yet to work it out.

I ended up buying a car, I've had more fun in that than I have on any bike over 250cc...
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike for fun or a funny commute.
Car tool for work /running family around

Keep the bike for the weekend might enjoy it more?
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you should probably buy that car you've always wanted and sell your current bike if you're not enjoying it, but if I were you I'd buy a cheap little 125 to commute on (when you feel like it) or nip into town on (free parking, 100mpg etc) then at least you'll still have something to satisfy the inevitable urge to be back on 2 wheels.

Think of the summer - the bikes filtering past you in that car of yours. Smile
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only ever had the bike for commuting, was the reason for getting my licence in the first place.

Wonder if it's just the associated faff of getting my gear on, changing at the other end etc.

see how the bike feels after the fork seals have been done over the weekend.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would say its commuting thats killing it personally. I used to travel/commute/shop - everything, by bike for years, a lot longer than most of my school/college/work mates of a similar age did once they reached an age they could drive/insurance a car. Of about 20 people I knew when I started riding, 3 are still riding Rolling Eyes

I got pressured reluctantly into getting a car a year and a bit ago by the mrs - its useful and i've used it since on most bad weather/icey days for commuting to be honest, but i'm still desperate to use/ride the bike when I have a chance.

I don't know the weight of your ZZR but I used my ZX6 restricted commuting for the good part of 2 years and it was fine for me. Its great thinking what the spare cash/savings vs a bike will get you in car terms as i've done the same, but when its all you have - are you sure you won't missing two wheels, even if it is just on the better days.

Its definately a faff sometimes, even 'good weather' days at the moment I have to whack my thermals on, gear up, head out for a meaningless ride, pay to fill the tank etc - but for me its definately worth it - I had near 6 months without a bike during the colder months and it was horrendous Thumbs Down

I'd say firstly go out for a good few rides somewhere purely for fun, if its still not interesting you maybe its the bike I guess, but personally i'd still pay to chugg around on a 125 if it was the only option.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 20 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:
Wonder if it's just the associated faff of getting my gear on, changing at the other end etc.

That used to piss me off as well, I ended up buying some black cargo kevlar jeans (acceptable to wear at work), steel toe boots (again OK at work) - so now I just have to slip on a jacket, helmet and gloves, doesn't take 30 seconds if I'm in a hurry.

Obvious trade-off with safety is obvious, but no longer do I get the frustration associated with faffing around getting changed and protection is still reasonable.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the car you've seen tax exempt because of it's age?

If it is, don't kid yourself it's suitable for daily commuting, unless you have very deep pockets and/or an almost infinite amount of time to keep it fettled.

Also keep in mind it's at least 40 years old and it will drive like it.
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pseudo BS psychology, but if you do something you don't like, it's easy to associate negative thoughts with things associated with that event.

Commuting isn't a likeable thing mostly. Especially when its cold and pissing with rain and douchbags are trying to kill you.

For 6 years I commuted on a 50-125, and the last thing on my mind was to use the bike for fun outside of work....until I met some of BCF who changed my mind Smile

Now I associate the bike with cool little adventures as the main thing, the commute is second.

If I road a pedal bike to work, its quite likely I'd end up hating cycling.

You could buy a nice car, but if the commute is your main association, the same thing might happen.
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditch ancient ZZR and buy decent bike. Simple.
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The car in question is one of these: https://classiccarblog.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/ford-anglia/ford-anglia-pwm-432.jpg

Yes it's 50 years old and will need some TLC but so does an old ZZR, having had a 30 year old Fiesta as my first car and having to re-attach a drive shaft on the hard shoulder of the motorway while the AA bloke watched for traffic was just part of it.

Yeh, I'd miss being on a bike, perhaps sports bikes aren't for me in terms of their positioning although I was enjoying the ZZR last summer, riding through the winter has altered my riding style, keeping the bike more upright and I've had to re-learn to lean it.

A 125 isn't an option for my commute, I had a varadero before and it struggled to keep with traffic flow, being cut up by a lorry that was overtaking me on the motorway was the last straw and why I bought the Z
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

grab yourself a sports tourer instead, I commute on my fz6 daily and it's my favorite part of my working day Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:
The car in question is one of these: https://classiccarblog.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/ford-anglia/ford-anglia-pwm-432.jpg

A 125 isn't an option for my commute, I had a varadero before and it struggled to keep with traffic flow, being cut up by a lorry that was overtaking me on the motorway was the last straw and why I bought the Z



Christ, are you also into hair shirts and self flagellation, because only a complete masochist would buy that for commuting.

You didn't like your Vara because it struggled in traffic, what are you going to do in your overweight, drum braked, vague-o-matic steered antique, which will struggle to wheeze up to 70 and has a 0-60 time of around 30 seconds?

Mechanically, that will be a constant round of tuning, tweaking and fiddling, with every spare moment spent scouring Ebay for that unobtainable spare part.

After that, there's keeping the rust at bay and heaven forefend some half asleep white van man should crash into you, because you won't be fixing bodywork for tuppence, assuming you can find someone with the skills required to repair it.

As a method of putting the fun back into commuting, that will be about as effective as trying to hang glide with a tea towel.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That car looks boring as heck for an only vehicle.

Sell the ZZR and buy something modern like a Hornet, Street Triple or something.
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think its time to go naked bike Black Sheep. As MarJay says, something from that bunch would probably increase the enjoyment.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riding on the road is shit, if I could ride on the track regularly I'd give up road riding (in the UK, abroad it's pretty good)
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:
Wonder if it's just the associated faff of getting my gear on, changing at the other end etc.

Possibly, I detest that too. It's not quite warm enough to get back into my kevlar jeans yet, that makes a fair difference.

Have you checked that you can get parts for that Popular? I mean actually get them, not be assured that there's a guy in Luton who knows a bloke whose uncle once had a box of bits in his shed.

I'd expect that you'll still have to "gear up" to drive it, it will struggle and fail in every possible way at every possible opportunity, you'll spend more time being towed than driving, and you'll be relieved when it's inevitably stolen.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw someone mention, get a sports tourer, a ZZR is a sports tourer.

You have to force yourself to go out for a blast in the hills, go towards burnley, there's some nice roads in that direction, at least when I went from Rochdale a couple of times.

Slipping when turning right, what tyres do you have? are they square?

I bought a CG for commuting but I am close to work really. I would never go on the motorway (again). This leave the ZZR to make my balls tingle going to 60 faster than the CG can get to 30.

The sun's coming out. Drive to work for a week, blast on the bike at weekends. You never know, you might end up a fair weather biker Razz
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to say I used to be the same commuted by bike only for 7 or so years and rarely wanted to use it at the weekend or outside work. Got a car for the commute and it changed my perspective now can't wait to get out on the bike evverytime I've some fee time or use it to ride to work on nice days,
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I said sports tourer I probably explained wrong, meant more a naked like the fz6 I mentioned or the later mentioned hornet/street triple

riding position of the hornet and fz6 is much the same, fz6 is a fair bit taller though however is much easier to lay on the tank behind the screen if it gets a bit windy out
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't get out on a weekend, having a 5 month old the weekend is family time.

Used to cycle as transport, wasnt usually an issue getting out on the bike to work as driving wasn't a great option.

After posting remembered I felt the car slip on the same roundabout as the bike so must have been some oil or something.

Had a decent ride in today, would be in the queue for the new continental GT if I wasn't convinced that I'd kill it on the motorway
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