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 Posted: 19:22 - 20 Mar 2014  Post subject: Can you ride a GPZ500 restricted with only a CBT |
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Hi all
sorry if this is in the wrong place, need to know for my brother he gonna take his CBT in a few weeks and wants to know if he can ride a restricted GPZ, he likes mine  been a long time since I did mine 
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| Posted: 19:40 - 20 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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Sure he can ride it. Just not in any sense legally, in a public place.
125cc, 11kW, 0.1kW/kg.
The last one means that a bike making exactly 11kW needs to be at least 110kg, wet weight. In practice, not really an issue.
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| Posted: 19:44 - 20 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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thanks guys, is this new or has it always been that way with CBT ? I know I rode a 125cc for years but always thought you could restrict a bike to ride on a cbt |
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| Posted: 19:50 - 20 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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Not since the Elder Days, in the Long Long Ago before Teflon-Mike drew his pension, and even then it was only 250cc.
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| Posted: 20:00 - 20 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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Ok
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| Posted: 20:16 - 20 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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If he wants to ride a GPZ500 he'll have to be at least 19 and on an A2 licence |
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| Posted: 20:20 - 20 Mar 2014 Post subject: |
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thanks Sabian, hes 24 but new to bikes  will let him know and take it from there |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | Not since the Elder Days, in the Long Long Ago before Teflon-Mike drew his pension, and even then it was only 250cc. |
Unsupervised, ahead of tests; no matter how old; power limited 125 only, since 1982...
A year when, I seem to recall Dexies Midnight Runner's 'come on Eiline' was the summer's anthem, and I was so far from drawing a pension, school rules said I wasn't even allowed to wear long trousers, let alone not ride a 250... Just because it's taken the onset of senility for you to discover the joys of motorcycles Roger, doesn't mean that any-one that can remember, petrol stations having two-stroke mixing trolleys so you didn't have to guess how much oil to dribble into the tank and do the "Bantam Knee Trembler" to mix it into the petrol, must have grown up before Sabre tooth tigers became extinct.
Meanwhile; IS possible to ride a bike 'more' than 125 Learner-Legal on CBT and L's you just need to be under radio supervision of a card carrying instructor and riding 'for the purposes of training'.
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| Kickstart wrote: | If you include bikes with side cars fitted you could ride bikes over 125 as a learner until a lot more recently than 1982. |
Think you still can, provided it's power to weight limit is still less than the 0.1Kw/Kg allowed for a solo 125...
But a Motorcycle & Side car is .... is... (trying hard not to say an anathma of archaic, asmyetrical, a...a...... ecconomical expedience, of extreme eccentric engineering asthetics! Failing....) No longer a 'motorcycle'.... but a'combination'... possibly an 'outfit'
But I think that strictly, an outfit, is a three wheel vehicle with asymetrical wheel plan, and single dedicated structural member; like the Trials or Enduro or GP 'Side-Cars' with the frame a single structure including the chair, without a seperate detacheable sub-frame.
Either way, if it got three wheels, it ENT a motorbike!
https://gallery.nen.gov.uk/assets/1002/0000/0115/motorcycles_217_mid.jpg
The Tax-Man said So!
(That's a Brough Superior Austin 4, BTW; due to the weight and power of the four cylinder engine, it had a double back wheel; I seem to recall there was an Aerial, I think made in the 50's with a similar arrangement; both predominantly to haul side-cars, and the tax-man, so I was lead to believe, deemed it a tax-dodge, trying to avoid paying higher sales and road taxes as for a car. Ironically the Brough cost more than the Austin 7 Car it's engine was sourced from anyway!)
But it lives in the National Motorcycle Museum ....
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