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PostPosted: 14:05 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Lidl Torque Wrench Reply with quote

Any good?

https://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/SID-086787AB-2EBDBEEA/www_lidl_uk/hs.xsl/our-offers-2491.htm?action=showDetail&id=10947
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked one up last year. As they had been in store for 6 weeks or so, got it for £9.99.

I can't say I've had many opportunities to use it because most work that I've completed needs a lower torque range....5-25.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had no issues with one I bought a few years ago...However, without calibrating it, or snapping a bolt you know is good, you wouldn't know.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't speak to that (I don't trust any of that new fangled sorcery), but I picked up a Powerfix 3/8" socket set recently and it's actually quite nice: the ratchet feels like a clock mechanism.
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their brake cleaner and high temp paint look good
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathan A wrote:
Their brake cleaner and high temp paint look good


Yeah I thought about those. Brake cleaner is always useful and that's half the price of it anywhere else. The paint might be worth a punt too.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that the torque wrench will be nearly the same as the one I have from 'Silverline'. More than likely they originated from the same source and are just rebranded, as I've seen the exact same kit produced by multiple brands.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

can anyone recommend a cheapish torque wrench to do the lower range of nm?

going to try grab a lidl one aswell, hopefully before they sell out!
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathan A wrote:
brake cleaner

Cheapest nail varnish remover in your local supermarket (acetone) . Maybe a pump-sprayer from Pound Coin-land, or a cheap paintbrush.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
Let me see if I understand this.

You don't trust yourselves to do a bolt up without snapping the head off it, but you're happy to trust this task to a cheaply made copy of a tool that costs several hundred pounds that you bought at the supermarket?

You don't need a torque wrench unless you are building engines & even then theres hardly anything on the engine you actually need to torque up to spec.

Stop being clowns, learn to use a bog standard ratchet & feel when a bolt is tight. I have never ever ever used a torque wrench on a sparkplug, I have never ever had a spark plug thread strip. I have never ever used one on an oil pan, and I haven't had one of them strip either, nor have I had a bolt fall out.

Why does everyone who owns a bike need a damn torque wrench to do anything? Please, somebody explain? Everyone I've ever spoken to that claimed to need a torque wrench never knew they had to be calibrated every so often, or that storing them with the adjuster tensioned caused them to go out of spec!

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What utter utter shite. 90% of all bolts on all engines have a torque setting. Even using a cheap torque wrench is better than guess work for most people.

Do you think a manufacturer makes up these figures for fun?

I've been a marine engineer for 37 years and still have a torque wrench in my toolkit. And use it.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks like the same torque wrench i just bought from screwfix for 25 quid damn you lidl !!

It does a job doesn't look the best but i just used it for rear sprocket nuts and rear axle and front sprocket which was supposed to be 108nm but i undid with my hand !! bike from new they must have forgotten to do it, wasn't picked up on 3 services and the first service was to check all bolts and torques !!

reminds me i was going to complain to kawasaki lol
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

90% of things, do up to FT spec, the rest get the torque wrench Cool
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
Okay, so you're telling me as an engineer that when you work on your own bikes - lets say replacing a damaged engine cover, you would sit there and set every single bolt to the exact torque figure?
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I wouldn't, but most people on here need to because they have no idea of torque.

Small bolts being the worst.

Anyway, what is your engineering basis/knowledge/life.

Fuck all, am I right?
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MechEng Degree here Cool
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most stuff you just do up as tight as you can. A torque wrench is useful for stuff where the thread is fragile and you need to be sure to not over tighten it.

Not snapping bolts is a useful skill to learn without being reliant on a torque wrench.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MissTamsin wrote:
MechEng Degree here Cool


Good, go undo iains balls cause he dosn't understand engineering.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Most stuff you just do up as tight as you can. A torque wrench is useful for stuff where the thread is fragile and you need to be sure to not over tighten it.

Not snapping bolts is a useful skill to learn without being reliant on a torque wrench.


Ste, shit engineering
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe, but it could also be considered shit engineering to not be able to do most bike DIY mechanics without having a torque wrench.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of yet I've never used a torque wrench but having recently changed to braided lines I found myself wanting one. Obviously I can tell what's tight but with brakes I felt the need to get it spot on.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
Stop being clowns, learn to use a bog standard ratchet & feel when a bolt is tight.

You seem to have forgotten that experience is accumulated by making something called "mistakes" and learning from those, which is expensive. "Is this tight enough? Hmm, I haven't put that much pressure on it, let's give it a bit more - FAAAAACK!!!" And there's your bolt kaput.

For the time and expense it will cost you to fix this, why not buy a decent torque wrench and just not snap the head off in the first place? (This is especially relevant for people who don't work on bikes every day, every week or even every month.) You seem to understand monetary value - torque wrenches cost a few quid - but not the value of somebody's time i.e. them spending umpteen hours fixing up something they broke because they tackled it without the right tool.

What does a decent torque spanner cost, 40 quid, 60 quid? Even if you're only earning national minimum wage that's only the equivalent of 10 hours of your time. Personally I'd just invest in the right tool for the job in the first place and spend my weekend doing hours of things I enjoy rather than hours messing around with a broken bolt.

But I understand that other people may find that sort of thing very satisfying.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay89 wrote:
can anyone recommend a cheapish torque wrench to do the lower range of nm?

going to try grab a lidl one aswell, hopefully before they sell out!
Have a look on machinemart, i got one off there for 8-120nm IIRC for about 20 quid. Another from Argos for 80-240nm also if IIRC for around 20 quid.

Personally i use them on most bits besides fairing bolts - maybe just as reassurance, avoided doing stuff without torquing it for fear of destroying expensive bits n pieces Razz
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feel is worth fuck all on a long stretch bolt, I know to my cost that a cheap torque wrench is not a good torque wrench.

The bolt's in question were for the injectors on a 2.0 PD diesel and are about 3" long with a torque of 3N:m +90° +180° (it's burned into my mind now)

El-cheapo wrench could be clicked by hand with very little effort so I though it would do...
Nope, £25 and a day's delay while VW got me another set of bolts and £75 on a Norbar torque wrench and the injector seal change could be completed... £100 over budget, not my mates fault I didn't have the right tool so I lost money on that one... The wrench will be handy for the bike though so it's not too bad.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 21 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lidl are good, just not for tools. Finding the cheapest possible tool is not really the best policy IMO.

Buy the best you can afford. Buy cheap, buy twice.
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