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Robin_Hood
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Average speed cameras Reply with quote
Hi,
I was just wondering if the yellow average speed check cameras can catch a bike speeding as they are forward facing cameras?

I am unsure if the cameras on the other side of the road can get you.

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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd gamble your license that forward facing cameras only capture traffic on their side of the road.

Just watch out for a GATSO or copmobile waiting at the end of the controlled speed area to catch folk belting away from it.
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
No they can't.

But a word of caution, a few persistent riders have been identified by their gear / helmet / colour scheme etc and prosecuted in this way.
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Robin_Hood
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok cheers
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dydey90
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
The ones on the other side of the road can't see you, notice how there's a separate camera for each lane?

I generally go through just slightly quicker than the traffic, you can still get pulled by the plod.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
janner_10 wrote:
No they can't.

But a word of caution, a few persistent riders have been identified by their gear / helmet / colour scheme etc and prosecuted in this way.


Any evidence of this on the SPECS average speed cameras? I didn't think the cameras could even "see" motorbikes, as their front cross section was too small, and there's no plate for the camera to look for.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
janner_10 wrote:
No they can't.

But a word of caution, a few persistent riders have been identified by their gear / helmet / colour scheme etc and prosecuted in this way.


Any evidence of this on the SPECS average speed cameras. I didn't think the cameras could even "see" motorbikes, as their front cross section was too smal, and there's no plate for the camera to look for.


I thought this too. No plate, nothing even registers on the system.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't think the average cameras even take a picture, they just read your plate by text recognition.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10488713.Biker_caught_speeding_15_times_is_fined___180_and_banned_for_a_year/

https://www.pocketgpsworld.com/Hapless-Biker-Gets-Caught-Giving-Speed-Camera-The-Finger-2994.php

Not average speed cameras per se. Worth being mindful though if caught taking the piss etc etc. Not above plod to waste tens of thousands and go hell for leather to get you.
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Wafer_Thin_Ham
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
janner_10 wrote:
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10488713.Biker_caught_speeding_15_times_is_fined___180_and_banned_for_a_year/

https://www.pocketgpsworld.com/Hapless-Biker-Gets-Caught-Giving-Speed-Camera-The-Finger-2994.php

Not average speed cameras per se. Worth being mindful though if caught taking the piss etc etc. Not above plod to waste tens of thousands and go hell for leather to get you.


So you've cited two examples, both of what are static Truvelo cameras, which are completely different to how average speed cameras work.

Do you know if the average speed cameras can even recognise motorcycles?
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Couldn't begin to guess if they do or not.

Although the stories demonstrate the length plod will go to for a tug, advising caution about flying through them, irrespective if they can detect you or not.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
janner_10 wrote:
Couldn't begin to guess if they do or not.

Although the stories demonstrate the length plod will go to for a tug, advising caution about flying through them, irrespective if they can detect you or not.


Well how are the rozzers going to track you down if the cameras don't know you're razzing through them?

And those stories more show the lengths the police will go to catch people that are obviously taking the piss out of them.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
janner_10 wrote:
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10488713.Biker_caught_speeding_15_times_is_fined___180_and_banned_for_a_year/

Local Rag wrote:
police were unable to trace him because he rode without a front number plate. [...] he was able to evade the law because the images taken on forward- facing cameras revealed his number plate was missing.


Personally I think that if you see an oncoming motorcycle with a "missing" front number plate, you should ram it off the road BECAUSE CHILDREN.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:


And those stories more show the lengths the police will go to catch people that are obviously taking the piss out of them.


That was my point. You just made it better than I did!
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
janner_10 wrote:
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:


And those stories more show the lengths the police will go to catch people that are obviously taking the piss out of them.


That was my point. You just made it better than I did!


So don't obviously take the piss = no problem Thumbs Up

SO razz through them, as from googling it would appear they use OCR on your front number plates on the first set, and photograph on the second if the OCR from the second camera matches the first AND it thinks your speeding.

No plate = no OCR entry at the first camera, so no photo at the second.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
janner_10 wrote:
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10488713.Biker_caught_speeding_15_times_is_fined___180_and_banned_for_a_year/

Local Rag wrote:
police were unable to trace him because he rode without a front number plate. [...] he was able to evade the law because the images taken on forward- facing cameras revealed his number plate was missing.


Personally I think that if you see an oncoming motorcycle with a "missing" front number plate, you should ram it off the road BECAUSE CHILDREN.


It's that sort of slap dash journalism that makes me sad. Sad
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Simple answer is that if you are worried then dont be naughty.... Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some of these average speed cams also have camera's on the other side looking at the back of cars etc.

Noticed the DVLA on the York bypass yesterday doing a licence check.

Sign on rear of car stating check ( no camera).... Camera was at the front of the car picking up your rear number plate Embarassed
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
iooi wrote:
Some of these average speed cams also have camera's on the other side looking at the back of cars etc


Fit tiny number plates to the bike then all good Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 25 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
What about this bit?
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He must take a test before his licence is returned

There are 'L' plates in the picture. Brick Wall
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