Fuel Tap & Choke, newbie question time....

[Tamsin]

Right, proper noob question...

The CG has a fuel tap, and I've got that when it is in a horizontal position that that is fuel cut off but I'm not sure about the on and reserve settings.

When the lever part of the tap is up, does this mean its in reserve? Thats where it was when I bought the bike. I dont want to run out and find I'm stuck (no fuel gauge)

Secondarily, the choke. I'm not convinced that I have it worked out - or it may be that something has been tinkered with. Its a little lever which has 3 positions. The downwards position is clearly full on so I assumed middle would be mid choke and upwards would be choke off but no matter how long I have left the bike flicking the switch up results in it stalling....

[pinkyfloyd]

The fuel tap will look something like this.

https://b2bimg.bridgat.com/files/CD70_fuel_tap.jpg

should be marked. In this case the fuel tap is in the "on" position. Have a look at yours.

The choke is for starting the bike. If it has 3 positions it will be off, half or full, in a fashion. The colder it is the chances are the more choke you may need for starting the engine. When the engine warms you can set the choke off. Normally the engine tells you when it has been choked enough.

If the bike is cutting out even when its been ran on choke for a while then perhaps the idle on the carb needs sorted out. Theres a little screw there that you can turn. It'll set more or less tick over revs.

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/attachments/bikes-3-wheelers/1253935-cg-125-euro-ii-2013-problem-murree-carb.jpg

tickover/idle speed screw shown on the carb here.
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[Tamsin]

thanks pinky, unfortunately I can't see any abvious markings on the fuel tap...

[Tamsin]

Right, been out and found that it is marked, it was just covered by a layer of crud and yes, it was set to reserve - that could have been fun...

[pinkyfloyd]

If I can recal. All the ones in the yard (CG chinese copy things) and the pic above, that sits on the bike with the white tube in the tank so there is a high chance yours will be the same.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[stuarthouston]

Which model CG is it? On mine (1996 BR-T), full choke is up, and off is down - the lever is curved to make it easier to switch off when riding. Mine won't run on choke either without a tiny bit of throttle, I believe due to the rudimentary choke not increasing the idle speed, as more sophisticated ones do, to allow the bike to idle on choke.
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'96 Honda CG125 BR-T

[MC]

Same on my XR (CG engine) regarding the choke. Cold start, choke fully up, then immediately to the middle once it fired up (choke off when warm of course). However most of the time I found it was best to start the bike with the choke in the middle, unless I hadn't ridden the bike for a week, or it was really cold outside.
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Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[stuarthouston]

Pretty much the same on mine. I can almost always switch it fully off immediately after starting with full choke and giving a quick blip of the throttle, but sometimes it needs a minute or so on half to idle nicely - usually if it has sat for a while or is especially cold! If it's started often enough, sometimes it doesn't need any choke at all.
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'96 Honda CG125 BR-T

[Tamsin]

Mines a 2001, as to which exact model it is I really dont have a clue...

Its got front drums though

[MC]

From the XR manual. SHOULD be the same, if your's the '01 eStart model, the XR came out in '03 (revised CG was '04 I think):
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/15/13/82/47/choke10.png
It doesn't (as I mentioned before) mention when the bike was last used. For example at work we have an underground car park that gets pretty cold, but going home I only ever had to start the bike with partial choke (lever in the middle), let it warm up for a couple of minutes whilst I got my gloves on then choke off & go.
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Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
Honda XR-125L '04

[stuarthouston]

[Rogerborg]

[pinkyfloyd]

Just googled images. Thats what they came back with Sir Borg. Should be fine for reference though. Carbs are carbs for the most part.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[Tamsin]

Well, I'm used to SU carbs, which are rather different to bike carbs (not the principle behind them, but how they are laid out and user operated etc...)

[TaeKwon125]

Just out of interest, I though the cg125 didn't have a reserve? There's only one input tube going into the valve on my bike and on that picture.
I.e. I thought that tap was just essentially on or off so you can remove the tank when full.

Oli

[Tamsin]

mine certainly has the 3 positions...

[TaeKwon125]

As does mine, but they may well be open, open and closed.

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

[lozzypop1]

Can't rightly remember but I'm SURE my choke lever was UP for ON and it'll run like shit if you leave the choke on.
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[Tamsin]

Well, up is where it refuses to run no matter how long its run

[The Shaggy D.A.]

Have a manual.
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[lozzypop1]

[Tamsin]

Sadly Shaggy that link doesn't work...

I've found a couple of manuals online but they are for earlier models and their diagrams of that area of the bike are indecipherable.....

I had a haynes arrive this morning just before I left for work though

[wr6133]

If it only idles with the choke on your idle jet is probably blocked.

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]