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timboellis
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Opinions on a Thunderace YZF1000R Reply with quote
Can someone give good bad points on this bike, it is a full on sports bike ie. its not a lay on tank job
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
From what I have heard about them they make a great sports touring bike. The only downside I have heard is they can be a bit of a bitch to control in the handling area and their little brother the Thundercat handles better.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tatters had one and that's how he got his custom title on here. It burned enough oil to be known as a 3-stroke Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't see how they can make a great sports touring bike when they have worse fuel economy than a ZXR750J, ZX9R, ZX10, Early VFR750
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
c-m wrote:
I don't see how they can make a great sports touring bike when they have worse fuel economy than a ZXR750J, ZX9R, ZX10, Early VFR750


I ride a VTR Firestorm and thats a sports touring bike. In comparison for fuel consumption the Thunderace would beat it hands down.
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Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
pinkyfloyd wrote:
I ride a VTR Firestorm and thats a sports touring bike. In comparison for fuel consumption the Thunderace would beat it hands down.


Firestorm ISN'T a Sports-Tourer!
If you are under 30 its an 'old-mans' sports-bike.....
If you are OVER 30's its a 'grown-ups' sports-bike!
(I'm pondering my summer-ride, and I am SORELY tempted by one TBH)

YZF1000 Thunder-Ace, is explained by its history.

1987ish Yamaha released teh FZ750 'Genasis' with slant-four engine and Delta-box frame. Great bike in an era of great bikes, it was, as a 'road-bike' obsolete at birth, due to vogue for race-replicas, but its topogrophy, the beam frame and slant four engine was far more avante-guard than its performance and was to influence contemprary motorcycle design probably as much as the Werner-Brothers chopping the down tube out of a bicycle and sticking the engine in the middle of teh cradle to create the 'tradional' motorcycle, back in 1904 or whatever it was!

In the UK we never got the FZR750, which followed it, we got an updated FZ, and the homologation special OWO1, but in recompence we got the FZR1000, which helped show that big bikes could handle like middle-weights (Of the era!), but in 1990, updated with an EXUP valve in the exhust, it made headlines big time, becouse it was 'Restricted' (with rubber flaps in the inlet rubbers, easily removed with a scalpal blade to unleash 140bhp, while Yamaha still honoured the warranty!) to meet import agreements limiting it to 125bhp... it went like stink AND went round corners like almost nothing before it in the capacity class...

But the EXUP's glory was short-lived. Barely 18 months later, Honda launched the Fire-Blade, which re-wrote the rule-book on litre class sports-bikes, being utterly single minded. And the EXUP was instantly relegated to the Sports-Tourer catagory.

Yamaha's took a long while to answer the 'blade, and did so with the R1 in '97, and that bikes long lived reign as premier litre sports-bike kind of justifies the four years Yamaha took to come up with it.

In the meanwhile, the Thuinderace was an interim model, evolved from the EXUP as a 'more' focused sports-bike against the 'Blade.

Shows how far things have come, that people NOW suggest that an even more sports-orientated evolution of a bike that had stickers boasting 'Pure-sports' on the side, is itself now relagated to the role of 'sports-tourer'...

Personally, I'd say it is STILL a pretty dedicated sports-bike! Not one quite as single mindedly focused as an R1 or Blade, and consequently a bit more versatile, but THAT is a long way from being a bike that's a comfortable, competent long distance 'tourer'!
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Teflon-Mike wrote:


Firestorm ISN'T a Sports-Tourer!
If you are under 30 its an 'old-mans' sports-bike.....
If you are OVER 30's its a 'grown-ups' sports-bike!
(I'm pondering my summer-ride, and I am SORELY tempted by one TBH)


Woohooo I'm a grown up and ride a Grown up's sports bike.

As for getting one. I'd recomend it. So what that I have to feed the beast every 200 yards shes still great fun to ride.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
pinkyfloyd wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:

Firestorm ISN'T a Sports-Tourer!
If you are under 30 its an 'old-mans' sports-bike.....
If you are OVER 30's its a 'grown-ups' sports-bike!
(I'm pondering my summer-ride, and I am SORELY tempted by one TBH)

Woohooo I'm a grown up and ride a Grown up's sports bike.
As for getting one. I'd recomend it. So what that I have to feed the beast every 200 yards shes still great fun to ride.

I have the 750, which if I'm honest with myself is 'enough' motorcycle for almost anything I'm likely to want to do. It just needs a bit of fettling to see it on the road. Rediculousely I have most the bits to sort it apart from tyres, but I'm bogged down in tiddler projects to actually get round to doing anything with them! So was pondering 'something different', ready to ride, to potter about on over the summer.
Of what grabbed my attension: ZZR11, Just SOOOOO much motorcycle for a thousand quid! The sort of grand-tourer the VF was, but just more of it. Next up was a Triumph 900 Tiger, which was in very droolworthy condition. Same money though chucked up an original 1976 Honda GL1000.... yes a gold-wing but without all the tarty bits! A really cool classic summer ride! A Cagiva Elepant cought my eye too.... I mean that is a bike to buy JUST for the name, isn't it?!? But a Ducati engine, in a dirt-bike frame, built by Cagiva... heart yearns, but head jumps up and down and stamps firmly with the comment "You have enough fucking problems!" But Firestorm keeps poking me.
I have avoided full, big-legue on sports-bikes. I really cant rationalise the point of them. Would like a '91 Mito for a Sunday Scratching tool, but a bike to build, not buy. Fire-Storm, as a more 'considered' 'out the crate' solution and real-world sports-bike, makes a lot of sense, hence the tug... but I really doubt I'll get one, or anything else for that matter.
Money will probably go on getting Snowies Super-Dream finished and paying for her training and tests.
Her Driving licence needs renewing this month, and her CBT expires.....
Only alternative would be if I sold my Rangie.... but if I did that, kids would NEVER forgive me!
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
i had an ace.. Handled well enough, had enough grunt to go skyhigh... Just was UTTERLY rubbish with the 5 speed box.. you will forever be searching for 6th... Thats the biggest thing i can say...

Also, if you do get her and she has standard pipes, get yourself some fzr1000exup pipes, they are stainless...

also ditch the exup.. its rubbish too.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 02 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Had one for 4years. Commuted daily around London. Done about 45k on it. Loads of grunt. Obviously more than powerful enough. Would keep up with most other actual sports bikes (as long as you knock it through the gears rapidly rather than revving the tits of it) They burn oil like a two stroke. My mate used to joke that maybe i should fit a scott oiler system to it to keep it topped up. Down pipes rust badly. Exup valve sticks unless serviced regular. Suspension is comfy, but can be wallowy in corners. Fuel tank range was great. Better than my current blade. Full tank would last (light pops on) 160miles ish round town.
A big old comfortable bike. Definately a sports tourer from days gone by! (apologies for the lack of new paragraphs. I typed this on my phone)
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Re Teflon-mike,
Couple of incorrect points; FZ750 introduced in 1985 and not 1987 (the FZR1000 came out in 1987.
The FZ750 didn't have the alloy delta box frame, it had a steel box section one. (The FZR750, not available in the UK did and was visually similar to the FZR1000)
The FZR100 EXUP came out in 1989, so therefore reigned for 3 years and 18 months before the Blade appeared in '92.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
To be fair, Tef's only a real expert on modern supersports 600s.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rafolian wrote:
Re Teflon-mike,
Couple of incorrect points; FZ750 introduced in 1985 and not 1987 (the FZR1000 came out in 1987.
The FZ750 didn't have the alloy delta box frame, it had a steel box section one. (The FZR750, not available in the UK did and was visually similar to the FZR1000)
The FZR100 EXUP came out in 1989, so therefore reigned for 3 years and 18 months before the Blade appeared in '92.


You have no idea what you've just started... Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chalky. wrote:

You have no idea what you've just started... Laughing

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to enable a gigantean wall of text to illuminate the rest of us poor mortals of his superioress Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rafolian wrote:
Re Teflon-mike,

He also thought a Firestorm was a sportsbike Laughing.

(You never know, he might have been educated a little by BCF over the last three years Razz.)

Both when I was under 30 and over now, I have never had any preconceptions it was a sports bike!
Possibly because I've ridden sports bikes Razz.
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