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Jarrett1988
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: POR Apache 125 trouble Reply with quote

Hello boys

I am having trouble getting my por apache to run.
Firstly the old engine blew up lol.
I now have a engine for the bike, but it won't start.
I have check all electrics and found no spark, so got new cdi and now it sparking(by holding against engine).
I have also had engine out and checked valves and to see if timing out, but all timing marks line up. Have removed carb, cleaned and refitted. I get the bike to turn over but still won't start.

I am getting fuel come out of air intake side on carb!!!!!!!!!! I have tried easy start in carb and also poured some fuel into spark plug hole and still no fire up, have also replaced battery if this helps,
Please any help will be welcomed, as bike nearly saw a match and gallon petrol this afternoon lol

Cheers guys
Sam jarrett
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: POR Apache 125 trouble Reply with quote

Jarrett1988 wrote:
bike nearly saw a match and gallon petrol this afternoon

I wouldn't waste a whole gallon on it.

Jarrett1988 wrote:
I am getting fuel come out of air intake side on carb

Eh?

Buggered if I know what's causing that unless some clever dick has been mucking around with the camshaft[*] or there's a valve stuck open. Have you checked it for compression?

[*] Unless it's got the OHV CG-125 copyengine.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello mate yeah all the valves are free and it is the cg 125 ohv engine. I just can't work out why it's not starting its got good compression Sad
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Pigeon
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could it be a dodgy side stand cut out switch?
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:
Could it be a dodgy side stand cut out switch?

It's sparking.

It might not be sparking strongly enough. The cap might be shorting when fitted. The fuelling might be off. Really needs to be diagnosed in the metal, sorry.
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 31 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean by ..getting fuel out of air intake side by carb?

Also possible that the motor is the same type but different year or uses an ignition system that's different to the original....so check that out...god only knows the japs were bad enough at that! Check the flywheels and strobe the spark timing
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 31 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keihin PD26 carburettor.
Probably one with accelerator pump.
Fuel pissing out the vent hole sounds perfectly normal to me Laughing
Drop the float bowl; clean the float needle and seat.
Re-assemble.
If it still pisses, let it; try starting no choke no throttle; those float needles can be a bit sticky and need the engine run a bit to 'bed' and find thier seat.
Meanwhile; don't let the slightly high float bowl fuel level flood the engine, hence no choke, and if it still wont catch, open throttle 1/8th turn at a time and let it drag extra air to weaken it out a bit and give it a chance to catch.
If a pumper carb... has two cables from the throttle.... check the accelerator pump; I believe there is a diaphragm in there, could be perished, and causing your leak.
Also, on Pumper carbs under NO circumstances 'wank' the throttle whilst starting. Every time you change throttle position, pumper is squirting neat fuel into the carb, to enrich mixture under acceleration, to compensate for over-lean jetting, to meet emmission regs.
Could also be cause of fuel pissing out of carb if thats' what you are doing, and or pumper cable adjustment too high.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 31 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello guys I put a new coil on today and its started to back fire but still won't run the carb has been cleaned the float is free but now the petrol is shooting back in to the air box?
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