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PostPosted: 00:18 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Thieving gits Reply with quote

So, walking home from the bus stop through the estate back to my mums house, Im halfway down an alley way when I see 3 lads pushing something along the street at the end. Something seems familiar about this object.......Turns out its on my bloody motorbike.

Shouted at the cnuts, they dropped it and scarpered. Good timing for me to be heading home but was a shock to find that it was my bike being wheeled down the road from out of me mums garden.

Mum hadnt heard a thing. Did go out with the rottweiler looking for them but seemed to be long gone. Looks to only be a bent brake lever from what I could tell but will have to check when its light again.
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody lucky did you have it chained up at all, or any security on it Question
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: Thieving gits Reply with quote

GetawayDj wrote:
Shouted at the cnuts

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PostPosted: 00:36 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was round the back of the house so had all the side gate security. I text her asking to get the bike out for me ready for going to work. She got it out, was sat there in the garden with the dog for 10 minutes, went in and then probably not even another 10 minutes later got a phone call from me saying I had my bike up the road.
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that was my dog it would be on half rations for a fortnight.
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PostPosted: 03:25 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd court martial the bastard - sleeping sentries go to the firing squad.
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PostPosted: 06:50 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy who lives by me woke up to look of window and see his gsx750r 12 plate being pushed up the alley way, he catches them unawares up the road smashed one with a bat the other run off! Got his bike back with just a few scratches but he's on bail now awaiting a crown court date!! Uk laws are fucked up!
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PostPosted: 06:53 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add his bike was in garage they broke into his garage then kitchen to get key! He reckons 2sec later they would have fired her up and be gone
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steering locks are useless, even an opportunist will beat them.

Can be broken quite easily in under a minute quietly.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

WheelieKing666 wrote:
smashed one with a bat!


Next time , maybe he should smash them a lot harder : brain damage + no teeth & jaw = an inability to testify Thumbs Up
The bonus is that if he hits them hard enough , the brain damage will be permanent and they wont be able to steal bikes ever again Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
^ I'd consider that reasonable force, not just cos someone's touched your $hit, but had he shouted out they probably would have fired up the bike & been gone.


It's not reasonable force though is it? It would be reasonable if he had shouted at them and then they came at him with a weapon but he went equipt and hit an unsuspecting man.

I'm not saying the theif didn't deserve what he got but you have to think about these things before you go round smashing people with baseball bats
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrantT wrote:
...It's not reasonable force though is it? It would be reasonable if he had shouted at them and then they came at him with a weapon but he went equipt and hit an unsuspecting man...

IIRC it has been deemed reasonable to grab a handy item for defence when chasing thieves. So say a golf club from a bag in the hall is ok, taking time to unlock the shotgun cabinet isn't.

Depends if they were running away. Apparently that's a no-no. However, if confronted then ok to use force if in fear for yourself and/or others. So based on story so far don't know how equipped thieves were. I'd think somewhat if broken into house. Iron bar(s), knives, etc.?

IMO too early for sweeping statements of right and wrong.

...but natural justice would indicate result against the thief Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrantT wrote:


It's not reasonable force though is it?


Yes it is. If someone tries stealing your shit then it is reasonable.

Just because the Police state, its laws and all it's little peons claim otherwise doesn't make them right saying it isn't.

Steal someones bike = get head caved in with a bat

If everyone did the above there would be less bike thieving
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
GrantT wrote:


It's not reasonable force though is it?


Yes it is. If someone tries stealing your shit then it is reasonable.

Just because the Police state, its laws and all it's little peons claim otherwise doesn't make them right saying it isn't.

Steal someones bike = get head caved in with a bat

If everyone did the above there would be less bike thieving


Unfortunately 'justice' and 'legal justice' are two entirely separate things.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ I wish I could be the judge for that case.

Cause: Breaking and Entry, theft, emotional trauma for occupant

Effect: Received a polite and cautionary tap with a bat.

Verdict: Short sentence and fine to be paid to occupant as compensation.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
GrantT wrote:


It's not reasonable force though is it?


Yes it is. If someone tries stealing your shit then it is reasonable.

Just because the Police state, its laws and all it's little peons claim otherwise doesn't make them right saying it isn't.

Steal someones bike = get head caved in with a bat

If everyone did the above there would be less bike thieving


I think it's fair to say he was reffering to reasonable force in the eyes of the law, rather than the eyes of common sense.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
GrantT wrote:
...It's not reasonable force though is it? It would be reasonable if he had shouted at them and then they came at him with a weapon but he went equipt and hit an unsuspecting man...

IIRC it has been deemed reasonable to grab a handy item for defence when chasing thieves. So say a golf club from a bag in the hall is ok, taking time to unlock the shotgun cabinet isn't.

Depends if they were running away. Apparently that's a no-no. However, if confronted then ok to use force if in fear for yourself and/or others. So based on story so far don't know how equipped thieves were. I'd think somewhat if broken into house. Iron bar(s), knives, etc.?

IMO too early for sweeping statements of right and wrong.

...but natural justice would indicate result against the thief Thumbs Up


Actually no, the guy who picked up a cricket bat and beat the thief in to a wheelchair got convicted. You can use force to defend yourself but chasing after someone and then beating him is against the law.

If someone's in your house and you feel threatend then that's different, but running down the street and hitting someone in the back of the head is pretty frowned upon.

As someone has pointed out, this isn't what I think is right, this is in the eyes of the law.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrantT wrote:
...You can use force to defend yourself but chasing after someone and then beating him is against the law....

So if you chase someone and then they attack you...because you chased them then are they defending themselves and can beat you to a pulp? Or can you defend yourself from being beaten?

If I read what you put you must allow yourself to be beaten because you chased them. Sounds about right for English law.


...did anyone else spot this topic swerve in another direction?
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The law says you can't bash somebodies head in with a baseball bat because ultimately you don't know who's head you're bashing in. Odds are it's a scumbag scrote who deserves exactly that. Small chance it's a kid who knows no better simply because he's been raised by fuckwit parents and always seems to be getting his head bashed in.

Either way, you hit them with a baseball bat and the only thing they learn is "hmmm.... that hurt. Next time I better bring a knife".
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
GrantT wrote:
...You can use force to defend yourself but chasing after someone and then beating him is against the law....

So if you chase someone and then they attack you...because you chased them then are they defending themselves and can beat you to a pulp? Or can you defend yourself from being beaten?

If I read what you put you must allow yourself to be beaten because you chased them. Sounds about right for English law.



You're on dodgy ground but if they have a weapon I think you can defend yourself. There was a guy recently who chased some intruders off of his land and ended up giving one a hiding but claimed that one of the scotes grabbed a weapon of some variety (fence post maybe?), he was let off. I can't find the BBC article now.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Steal someones bike = get head caved in with a bat

If everyone did the above there would be less bike thieving

I can tell you’ve thought this through, unlike the shortsighted law-makers, corrupt Crown Prosecution Service, and elitist judges. Good man.

The truth is, you’re perfectly entitled to whack someone with a bat – if you’re at risk of serious injury. You’re not allowed to whack someone with a bat merely because said someone is running away with your ghastly Yamaha.

It doesn’t take a genius to realise this is the only way things could tolerably be, which is why the same basic principle applies in all countries with a developed legal system.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrantT wrote:

You're on dodgy ground but if they have a weapon I think you can defend yourself. There was a guy recently who chased some intruders off of his land and ended up giving one a hiding but claimed that one of the scotes grabbed a weapon of some variety (fence post maybe?), he was let off. I can't find the BBC article now.


So what you're saying is that after you've smashed their head in with the bat, you should make sure that their fingerprints are on it as well as yours, call the police yourself, and tell them that they came at you with a bat when you went out to remonstrate with them?
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stiglet wrote:
The law says you can't bash somebodies head in with a baseball bat because ultimately you don't know who's head you're bashing in. Odds are it's a scumbag scrote who deserves exactly that. Small chance it's a kid who knows no better simply because he's been raised by fuckwit parents and always seems to be getting his head bashed in.

Either way, you hit them with a baseball bat and the only thing they learn is "hmmm.... that hurt. Next time I better bring a knife".


^^^this
the little scrotes won't think "maybe a life of crime isn't for me." but "Next time i'll tool up"
harsher sentencing would be better.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 03 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what I'm gathering from all this is that if you catch some fuck stealing your bike... chase them down and finish the job, the law will punish you anyway.
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