Cyclist hits car HARD!

[madmax123]

Cyclist Vs Car!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOkhwFCEf4A


Caught on a helmet camera by my friend using my camera.
I'ts controversial to say the least and the blame has been put on the cyclist by the insurance company, apparently he was going way over too fast and should have slowed for the box junction, I have no opinion on who's to blame as it all comes down to common sense...
the comments section is full of the typical stuff

[barrkel]

Cycle lanes effectively force cyclists to undertake stopped traffic. When undertaking, you have a lot less visibility for people turning into junctions (like this accident) or pedestrians just finishing crossing the road. So you have to be ready to stop, especially if there's a traffic island or junction.

Liability wise, it's hard for me to say. In principle the car driver should be looking for a cyclist there, but is it realistic to ask every car driver to expect a 20mph vehicle emerging from a gap into which you have no visibility?

Accident-proneness wise, that cyclist was bound to get a wakeup call sooner or later - you simply can't undertake that quickly across junctions without being able to see it's clear.
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[Llama-Farmer]

Thats in Leeds just outside the university Engineering building isn't it?

I used to see a lot of cyclists going down the middle of the road, where you'd normally see motorbikes filtering, purely because of the number of bus stops on that road it makes cycling on the left a very sketchy thing
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[P.]

If I see brake lights, I instantly think "what's happening there"

I saw brake lights right at the start. Saw a junction. If he couldn't, what a thick turnip.

[Monkeypony]

[Llama-Farmer]

[arry]

[map]

1. Car goes across box junction as car stopped before it. Car that stopped was either (a) being courteous and/or (b) obeying the traffic law if he couldn't fit in gap beyond it. Not really expecting cyclist.

2. Cyclist goes straight over box junction irrespective of traffic conditions. I'm wondering if he'd have bothered stopping for any red traffic light. He's not really expecting the car actually. However, from being alongside/front of stopped car I'd have expected some forward observation and application of brakes.

Both I'm thinking not able to see the other. My sympathy is with the car driver. Was cyclist wearing Lycra perchance?
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[Llama-Farmer]

Hard to tell but they're probably both as bad as each other, neither cyclist nor turning driver considering the possibility of the other, so neither proceeded with due caution
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[Keir]

cyclist has right of way going straight along his clear lane.
car driver has seen other car stop and assumed its clear.
Car drivers fault.

However, both need to take more care and look before blasting through.
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[anthony_r6]

I would say this one lies with the cyclist. While he had right of way, the cyclist probably only came into view from behind the stopped car (the one giving way) as the car was turning. The car was already executing the manoeuvre and it was too late for him to spot the cyclist, and/or react.
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[covent.gardens]

The cyclist could easily have avoided that. I could easily get on my pushbike tomorrow and go and have an accident just like that if I wanted; if you ride that quick whilst undertaking at a junction you won't stay upright all that long. Nevertheless it was technically his right of way, but having right of way doesn't mean you're right.

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[Suntan Sid]

Having the right of way is all well and good, not so good with broken wrists!
It's city traffic, the assumption that your right of way automatically means it's safe to do so is not a doctrine that is going to increase your odds of survival!
Very poor skills all round!
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[andi]

Drivers is at fault. However the cyclist needs to anticipate and react to that kind of thing if he wants to stay alive. Being right and injured is a poor outcome imo.
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