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Orennayar
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: driving license newby question Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

First I'd like to thank everybody who's been posting here as I've been lurking this forum for a few months now and it's been really helpful. But now it's my time to post here Mr. Green
I'm 25 from france and I've been living in london for 3 years now and I couldn't cope with the tube anymore so I decided to get my motorcycle license and commute by bike instead of squishing myself in an overcrowded, over-late, sweat smelling can (no offense, if some people from the tfl read that Surprised.

Anyway, I got my CBT in january and since then I'm happily taking my YBR125 everyday to work and I'm loving it. However I'd like to get into the serious things (mostly tired of drooling while looking at the "real" bikes stopping next to me at traffic lights) and I'm now looking into getting the full license.
That's were the troubles start.

As I'm french I had to exchange my french driving license (category B) to a UK counterpart in order to be able to get my CBT.
So far so good, but then when I try to book the theory test online on the DVLA website I got a message saying they don't support CLH licenses. So my guess is I need a provisionnal driving license instead? Which seems a bit odd because that's what I thought I had with my counterpart (it clearly says "additionnal provisionnal license: A"). I don't have any of those fancy photo cards you guys seems to have though.
I tried to make a few research on that but couldn't find anything and after my brain started melting I decided to post here for help.
So if anybody could help me on that it would be greatly appreciated! Mr. Green

Tl;DR: Why can't I book my theory test with my driving counterpart license?

thanks!
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

first thing they ask for is your photo id card part of your licence when you do your theory.. you could try & blagg it wit your passport... most likely they will fcuk you off..
time to get uk photo id licence

guide to exchange licences

https://www.gov.uk/exchange-foreign-driving-licence
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Orennayar
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:
first thing they ask for is your photo id card part of your licence when you do your theory.. you could try & blagg it wit your passport... most likely they will fcuk you off..
time to get uk photo id licence

guide to exchange licences

https://www.gov.uk/exchange-foreign-driving-licence


Thanks!
Actually I'm pretty sure I followed that guide before doing my cbt and I had to fill in a D9 form to exchange my french license to a uk one.
They gave me this document (which worked perfectly for the CBT): https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7069/licenceu.jpg

I'm kinda confused on whether or not I need to fill in a D1 form and apply for a provisional license.
This sh!t is crazy Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easiest way is to apply for a uk. Provisional license. There not to expensive.and when you pass your tests it will be upgraded Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually I'm pretty sure I followed that guide before doing my cbt and I had to fill in a D9 form to exchange my french license to a uk one.
They gave me this document (which worked perfectly for the CBT): https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7069/licenceu.jpg

I'm kinda confused on whether or not I need to fill in a D1 form and apply for a provisional license.
This sh!t is crazy Laughing


I also would have thought you should indeed be able to take a GB driving test with that D9 document. But clearly for whatever reason, the online book system doesn't like it. (That's the whole point of them issuing them, to allow you to take a test!)

But, ultimately, you're going to have to exchange your French licence for a GB one eventually anyway.

Because even if you do sit and pass your theory and practical tests, you'll get issued a pass certificate (because obviously they can't add a motorcycle category to a French licence!). And that pass certificate is only valid for 2 years. If you don't apply for a GB licence in that time, you lose your bike test pass and you have to do it all again!

So maybe it would be better to apply for an exchange now rather than later. It'll probably be easier for all.

You don't apply for a provisional licence, you apply to exchange your French licence. If you applied for a provisional GB licence and passed your test, while keeping your French licence, you would be in possession of two EU licences which is illegal.
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the French motorbike test easier than the uk one? If so go there, take the test and then exchange your full licence for a uk one! Simples
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Orennayar
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 09 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the infos!
I guess I got confused with that counterpart thing, I actually thought this was like a proper exchange of my license (it does say I'll have to swap my french license for a UK one in 2059 though so I don't really get the point of this document Mr. Green )
I'll just swap my license then.
Do I need to apply for a provisionnal A once I got my UK car license?

As for the test in france, if it's like the car one it's a real pain in the *ss. You need to register to a school and then have to go there for "lessons" every week. You can't take the actual test until they think you're ready (most of the time that means getting 100% good answer all the time so it can takes months of that..).
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PostPosted: 03:05 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orennayar wrote:
Thanks for the infos!
I guess I got confused with that counterpart thing, I actually thought this was like a proper exchange of my license (it does say I'll have to swap my french license for a UK one in 2059 though so I don't really get the point of this document Mr. Green )
I'll just swap my license then.
Do I need to apply for a provisionnal A once I got my UK car license?

As for the test in france, if it's like the car one it's a real pain in the *ss. You need to register to a school and then have to go there for "lessons" every week. You can't take the actual test until they think you're ready (most of the time that means getting 100% good answer all the time so it can takes months of that..).


I believe the counterpart thing is designed just to let European drivers take additional tests in GB. So it is strange it's failing in that function! (but anyway, as I said, you'd still need to do the proper swap in 2 years' time anyway after you pass your tests)

Provisional A will definitely come with the car licence. (As will Car+trailer, tracked vehicles, road-rollers)
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Orennayar
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! I just need to fill that d1 thing then and I should be good to go Mr. Green
I was wondering, do I need to change my insurance or update anything once I get my full license (but keep the same bike)?
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orennayar wrote:
Awesome! I just need to fill that d1 thing then and I should be good to go Mr. Green
I was wondering, do I need to change my insurance or update anything once I get my full license (but keep the same bike)?


You should probably let them know, yeah. Not worth them refusing to pay out in the event of an accident if you aren't 100% honest about your licence.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: driving license newby question Reply with quote

Orennayar wrote:
Hi everyone!

First I'd like to thank everybody who's been posting here as I've been lurking this forum for a few months now and it's been really helpful. But now it's my time to post here Mr. Green
I'm 25 from france and I've been living in london for 3 years now and I couldn't cope with the tube anymore so I decided to get my motorcycle license and commute by bike instead of squishing myself in an overcrowded, over-late, sweat smelling can (no offense, if some people from the tfl read that Surprised.

Anyway, I got my CBT in january and since then I'm happily taking my YBR125 everyday to work and I'm loving it. However I'd like to get into the serious things (mostly tired of drooling while looking at the "real" bikes stopping next to me at traffic lights) and I'm now looking into getting the full license.
That's were the troubles start.

As I'm french I had to exchange my french driving license (category B) to a UK counterpart in order to be able to get my CBT.
So far so good, but then when I try to book the theory test online on the DVLA website I got a message saying they don't support CLH licenses. So my guess is I need a provisionnal driving license instead? Which seems a bit odd because that's what I thought I had with my counterpart (it clearly says "additionnal provisionnal license: A"). I don't have any of those fancy photo cards you guys seems to have though.
I tried to make a few research on that but couldn't find anything and after my brain started melting I decided to post here for help.
So if anybody could help me on that it would be greatly appreciated! Mr. Green

Tl;DR: Why can't I book my theory test with my driving counterpart license?

thanks!


Hi mate, may ask you how did you get your UK counterpart driving licence? I am Italian and I filled the D9 form plus I sent my italian driving licence... But my application has been rejected.
Can I ask you please how did you manage it?
Thanks in advance!
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Orennayar
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey dude,
Basically I just followed the instructions on their webpage. I filled the form and sent it with my license to the dvla. I don't know why they would reject your application though :/ they didn't say anything about it?
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small update: I received my license, it looks way cooler than the french one.
Just one weird thing, they didn't send me back my passport with it.
Is that an usual thing? I thought maybe they're sending it separately so you're not screwed in case the letter get lost but I only received the license so far.
beside that, theory is booked for the 21st, looking forward to the next steps Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do send them separately for security. Give it a few days to see if it turns up.

They have a history of losing passports and they don't (as far as I know) return them by recorded mail.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 03 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recevied the passport finally, I found it quite ballsy to send that kind of documents not tracked but meh.
Can't wait for the theory so I can start looking forward to my DAS. I enjoy so much going to work since I have a bike, I even surprised myself being glad to work on a bank holiday because I knew there would be nobody on the roads and I'll have a extra fun ride Mr. Green
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