Is "chink" or "jap" rayciss?

[smegballs]

I'm not talking about shouting "Oi chinky!" to an chinese person, but rather as a descriptive contraction of chinese.

Seems to me that by and large, it's pretty socially acceptable to refer to things as chink/chinky/etc.

"That chinky pile of shit will turn to rust before you're eyes."
"I was a bit worried about running these chink calipers, but actually they're pretty good for the price."
"Cor, them japs sure know how to build a motorcycle."

Admittedly chink remarks are usually negative, but in all honesty the goods are usually shit. So much shite has issued forth from china that the general opinion is that chinese=shit, just as jap/german=good for most people.

[Pete.]

Derogatory context: racist
Non-derogatory context: not racist

That's how I see it, others will see it differently. For instance if you work on the underground doing any kind of engineering, you'll always have a Site Person In Charge, or SPIC. If you're an underground employee you're no longer allowed to call them SPICs they are S.P.C, because SPIC is deemed derogatory to Italians. I always use SPIC, as do many others, as I see it as nothing more than an acronym and they always pull me up on it in access permit/track awareness training "You have to say S.P.C - you know what S.P.C stands for?"
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[Rogerborg]

When Tef says it, yes.

Should get 10 years in gaol.

Long enough for 1 post, maybe 2 if he copies and pastes.

ONLY JOKING!

Tef never copies and pastes.
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

Jap is no more racist than Brit.

But Chink and Paki - well, they shouldn't be either. But for a lot of people in the UK they are.

Chigger is more waysiss than Chink.
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[Rogerborg]

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[Hetzer]

Most Japanese consider "Jap" to be offensive. Jipnap is ok though.
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[Benno]

[stinkwheel]

But would "Jap." be less of a problem than "jap"?

Using the full-stop gramatically indicates the word is an abbreviation. Using the capital shows it is a proper noun.

So in the context of this forum if I were to say "I would have a Jap. cruiser over a Harley any day.". Is that in any way racist?
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[thepuma]

Unfortunately these days anything said by a white person to a non white person can be called racist. Better off keeping your mouth shut.
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It includes offensive, rude, inappropriate, unpleasant, []ist, []phobic, and unpopular speech.

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Of course not, now squinty don't blink for the camera again this is the 3rd shot with your eyes closed so far..

Well that might just be fun.

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[-Matt-]

I'd go for no personally. I lived in China for 6 years and I don't think many Chinese would appreciate being called a chink it if 'understood' in context/coming from a European. I'd expect the same goes for Jap and the Japanese, although I only visited there briefly.

I think it more comes down to why would there be a need to use it - We refer to British as Brits as its shortened slang essentially within our own language. Chinese and Japanese people generally don't associate chink/jap as being shortened/altered versions of their nationality with their nationaity AFAIK, and considering theres a lot of negative associations with both, I wouldn't want to risk using personally

[Tungtvann]

Yes, they are racist or unacceptable. You can't argue that because 'Brit' is the shortened form of British, and we don't mind it, then Jap, Paki etc are also fine and they shouldn't mind it. It's about the intention and usage of the word, I imagine that 'paki' was in the past used in the context of 'paki bastard' or other similar offensive usage, therefore, it's not acceptable today.

Pak is used a lot by the Pakistanis and Indians, especially when referring to sports teams (cricket), but I imagine if we'd (white Brits?) still be called racist if we used it.

[krarkol]

So when I say "lets get chinky for takeaway tonight" im being racist by buying their delicious food?
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[Rogerborg]

Depends, do you pull on the side of your eyes and say "Ah, so, velly rubbery chinky!" when you do it?
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[Llama-Farmer]

Whether it is racist or not is in the intent imo. Same with the n-word.


Would I use terms like that which can be perceived as racist?
Definitely not to or in the presence someone I am not familiar with, but to a friend if I know they don't take offence when I say it, then yeah why not.

I think sometimes people default to being victimised, insulted, offended and outraged when there is no malicious intent, (Top gear "slope" example)


But I wouldn't say they're socially acceptable terms, because for that to be the case, the vast majority of society would have to accept the word as normal, i.e. without the potential to cause offence
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[Benno]

This is all so ridiculous - all this struggling to define whether something is racist or not. Chances are that if you have to think so hard to define it as racist then it isn't, and only the most sensitive flowers will be offended by it. But there are lots of them these days, and people are so keen to take their side...

Yes it's mostly about the intent. But only an idiot would allow themselves to suffer a heart attack if they were called a racist word. Our society is largely free of unfounded prejudice and so kicking up a nationwide fuss over some drunk idiot calling you a subjectively nasty word is stupid.

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[krarkol]

I've been called white boy before.

Wasn't even offended, only reason I thought about it was because I was thinking if it was the other way around, I'd be donned as the modern age Hitler.
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