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Filter.
Rode like a newbie on my 11 mile commute into Edinburgh centre.
No jousting through moving traffic with the throttle nailed.
No squeezing through gaps.
No going to the front and stopping in cycle boxes.
Even let other bikes past me as I sat behind cars.
How boring was that 
NEVER AGAIN......... It was murder.
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| Posted: 08:19 - 11 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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How much longer did it take you?
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| Posted: 09:41 - 11 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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Did something similar yesterday on 30 mile ride back home on rural roads, no overtaking, keeping it below 4k rpm and accelerating smothley and clamly.
Took an eternity (or it felt like it)
In my defence, reason was two fold though,
Firtly, fuel light came on just as I passed the last fuel stop and I was not going to turn around and secondly, on the way back, my rear pads hit metal to metal, so fronts only (new pads fitted last night after arriving in the post).
Needless to say, this morning after bedding in the new pads and a top up, we were back to balls out blast to work again 
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| Posted: 10:27 - 11 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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Dear BCF : sometimes I dont ride my bike to the front of the queue  .
Sometimes when I think it`s a bit of a tight squeeze I dont filter at all
Does this mean I have caught the ghey?  am I less of a man?
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| esullivan wrote: | Try timing the difference between "chill out" and MotoGP and I bet you will be surprised. |
That. Most of my holdups are at lights, not in traffic. Taking every filtering and speeding (call it what it is) opportunity might buy me one or maybe two sets of light changes on a 10 mile commute.
I think it's more about the fun than the function.
| pepperami wrote: | Dear BCF : sometimes I dont ride my bike to the front of the queue .
Sometimes when I think it`s a bit of a tight squeeze I dont filter at all
Does this mean I have caught the ghey? am I less of a man? |
Ridiculous, you could never be less of a man.
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I agree with the more about fun than function, but in fairness fast filtering does make a fair difference for me, the extremes of my journey are probably 55 minutes at the longest to 35/30 at the shortest over a 22.5 mile commute through London.
Those times cover a huge variance in traffic from almost none at all to standstill the whole way, but on an average day filtering like a mad man probably saves me 10-15 minutes over riding like a dayglow wearing, BMW riding, old... Well, filtering like I imagine rogerborg might. 
I have timed both.
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| Posted: 16:28 - 11 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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Granted, that's a special case. The quick and the dead late.
| c_dug wrote: | riding like a dayglow wearing, BMW riding, old... Well, filtering like I imagine rogerborg might. |
I'll have you know that I took the Enfield today and wore tweed. 
It was actually rather rascally fun idling stealthily towards the lights and then blatting away. Must get another accessory though.
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| Posted: 18:40 - 11 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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| c_dug wrote: | I agree with the more about fun than function, but in fairness fast filtering does make a fair difference for me, the extremes of my journey are probably 55 minutes at the longest to 35/30 at the shortest over a 22.5 mile commute through London.
Those times cover a huge variance in traffic from almost none at all to standstill the whole way, but on an average day filtering like a mad man probably saves me 10-15 minutes over riding like a dayglow wearing, BMW riding, old... Well, filtering like I imagine rogerborg might.
I have timed both. |
I've timed both too and it varies wildly. Like you said, London traffic is very unpredictable. But today, the North Circular was standstill coming up to the Hanger Lane roundabout. I kept a good pace, maybe 25-30mph, catching up and passing other filterers, so I'm not BMW man (I don't even wear a hi-vis), but I was also a lot more relaxed than the kid with the L plates who I let passed at one point who was doing probably 50mph between the slow queueing cars and looked barely in control. I caught up with him on the A40. For all of that, he didn't progress any further than I did.
I concede that he might have had more fun, though. I'm getting a little old for that kind of excitement.
My 20-ish mile commute is almost always 35 minutes in the morning and varies from 45-60 minutes in the evening, no matter how hard I work at it. Or not.
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| esullivan wrote: | I think most bikers greatly overestimate the amount of time they are saving. On most nights home, because I know I'm more tired than in the morning, I'm laid back and just go for the easy filters. There are plenty of those and I'm probably between lanes maybe 60%-70% time.
But I often watch bikers working the gaps furiously, lifting the front off the lights, weaving between side mirrors as fast as they can, etc. Most of the time, that's just waste heat. I usually have them in sight for miles if we're going the same way. I'm catching up with them at every light, or even passing them because I took a better planned route. There are exceptions -- some expert couriers are gone over the horizon in no time -- but I don't think most of the hard core are saving as much as they think they are.
Try timing the difference between "chill out" and MotoGP and I bet you will be surprised. |
+1
Timed myself riding back from work while filtering like a madman and while riding sedately. About a 10 minute difference, so 20 minutes becomes half an hour. Malaysian traffic is dense and unpredictable, so it's hard to plan ahead and frenzied filtering is highly dependent on luck in order to make goodprogress. Too many close calls too, and I often found myself stuck between cars when a needed gap failed to materialise, watching the guys bimbling along in the 'bike lane' (aka road shoulder) slide pass the whole mess.
Now I just hang back and bide my time, gunning it in short bursts or when on the straights.
Attitude-wise, I think it's down to comparing commuting times between car and bike rather than between you and your fellow two-wheelers. I might have my place in the bike-queue but still far quicker than driving the car
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| Posted: 20:58 - 13 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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| esullivan wrote: | I think most bikers greatly overestimate the amount of time they are saving. On most nights home, because I know I'm more tired than in the morning, I'm laid back and just go for the easy filters. There are plenty of those and I'm probably between lanes maybe 60%-70% time.
But I often watch bikers working the gaps furiously, lifting the front off the lights, weaving between side mirrors as fast as they can, etc. |
Agree and disagree. I used to be super-cautious and rarely filtered much besides huge gaps in static traffic, same for overtaking - unless I was in a serious rush/stuck behind tractors etc i'd tend to plod along.
I've got a lot more confident with it the last few months particularly and in Bristol especially have noticed quite a large difference days i'm commuting on the bike. I do think though as mentioned by a few people its more the traffic lights that cause the delay than traffic.
Overtaking/filtering through moving traffic is probably more fun than function, but if you can cut [whats is often very long rolling queues in Bristol] to the front its often multiple sets of light changes you cut out each filter, which can easily be a few minutes a time on some of the busier junctions/ringroads. Timing it around Bristols ringroads and surrounding area a couple of months back it brought a usual 30-40 minute trip down to 20 minutes, so almost halved at best.
It is definately more for fun generally though I think - many days I really don't need/care to filter to save time, its just satisfying  |
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