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Corky25
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Good Drivers Reply with quote

Firstly I would like to say hello this being the first post and all. I'm currently riding a ybr 125 but the plan is to get the theory and das started end of may when some time free's up.
But to the point I've been riding daily since November and in that time have seen some shocking driving and more than enough near misses. However the last while I have found myself wanting to thank drivers who actually wait at give ways or use their indicators etc. So my question is does anyone else feel like this or is it a case of they should be doing anyway that so way thank them?

P.S I'm from the hatfield area so any tips on das courses/instructors near me would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many numpty-heads on the road.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine 80% of bike riders are also car drivers, so this whole "cager" thing is a load of horse shit.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
I imagine 80% of bike riders are also car drivers, so this whole "cager" thing is a load of horse shit.

Are 80% of car drivers bike riders?

I do like to give a little wave or salute to anyone who doesn't pull out on me. Why not, it doesn't cost me anything, and even if they're confused by it, it's a moment of brief human contact in a sterile, impersonal world.

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PostPosted: 15:56 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Chalky. wrote:
I imagine 80% of bike riders are also car drivers, so this whole "cager" thing is a load of horse shit.

Are 80% of car drivers bike riders?


Not at all, but when we moan about car drivers, are we not moaning about ourselves?

I normally lift a couple of fingers to people who have seen me, and always thank when the give room when filtering.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
I normally lift a couple of fingers to people who have seen me...
I thought we wanted to encourage them, not piss them off Surprised
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

noobRider wrote:
Chalky. wrote:
I normally lift a couple of fingers to people who have seen me...
I thought we wanted to encourage them, not piss them off Surprised


Laughing All depends on the fingers in question Wink
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
Not at all, but when we moan about car drivers, are we not moaning about ourselves?

Car drivers who don't spot bikes. I'd assume most of them aren't bikers.

If I don't spot a bike then I will accept a moaning in good spirit.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to give a little side nod or hand out wave when people move over filtering sometimes. Never tend to thank anyone around junctions as i'm worried other drivers may misinterpret any nods and waves and pull out on me.

Generally I just treat everyone as a bad driver, more alert you are less likely the actual bad drivers will suprise you when you're off guard Razz and theres plenty of them waiting to suprise you sadly Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filtering I agree with fully, and most cases I would give a quick nod to people who drive with care. As stated above it helps break the tension on the road. But the odd time I do think why should I thank someone for actually stopping at a roundabout. This is not just about cars but road users in general. Just wanted to see the general feel for this, but suppose in the end as long as you're safe its little odds really.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

noobRider wrote:
Chalky. wrote:
I normally lift a couple of fingers to people who have seen me...
I thought we wanted to encourage them, not piss them off Surprised


I've done that and my finger raised in thanks was taken as something entirely differently...ended up having some big burly bloke telling me if I was a bloke he'd have whacked me on the spot... Shocked

Next time I might a) not bother or b) raise the whole hand... Neutral
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do wonder sometimes if some drivers take a sideways nod as a 'get out the way/move over more' Laughing hopefully they get its to say thanks Shifty
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I've been exceptionally lucky but I'm actually pleasantly surprised at the sheer number of drivers that move over for me. Not sure if they clock the Ls and decide they're not risking their wing mirror or if they're genuinely courteous?! I'm not complaining though.

I need to make sure this doesn't make me complacent because someone's bound to go against the grain sooner or later!

I've not been thanking people as I'm new to filtering and don't want to risk an unplanned dismount. I will do when I'm confident enough as I do appreciate it.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corky25 wrote:
But the odd time I do think why should I thank someone for actually stopping at a roundabout.

Everyone's big on knowing our rights these days, but the thing is that everyone who gives way is making a conscious choice to do so. It is itself an act of courtesy, honouring a shared agreement about how we should use the road.

A little hand-off-the-bars acknowledgement probably achieves nothing, but perhaps it's the act that's significant, rather than the results.

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PostPosted: 20:54 - 10 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you put it like that, a quick nod as you pass not such a bad thing.
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Car drivers who don't spot bikes. I'd assume most of them aren't bikers.


Tut Tut Never assume.

My two (non fault) crashes. First one : White van selling TT merchandise during TT week and also bikers. Second one: Different white van, being driven by a biker and full of trail bikes that he was dropping off.

I must admit though, it is nice when another vehicle moves over to let you through/overtake. Even moreso, when they stick on their left indicators as an added signal.

One driver that impressed me a few days ago was one who indicated as he moved out to overtake a cyclist, then when he passed him, he signalled by waving his arm out the window, that he was also turning right. Very thoughtful, I thought to myself.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll usually give drivers a little wave of acknowledgement if they give me a little room to get past in heavy traffic.

One time I was behind this Fiesta with a couple of hotties in it and the blonde driver pulled over to let me pass.
I waved as I passed and just managed to see her flash her headlights at me in return.
Anyway, I'd stopped at the next set of lights only to have the hotties pull up next to me and the driver wind her window down, pat me on the bum and ask for my phone number.

This may/may not have/could but really didn't and probably will never happen.
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm completely with you on this, a little courtesy costs nothing.

Plus a little 'thank you' instantly placates anyone who might get their shirt up because you've just filtered all the way to the front of a queue.
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember one occasion when I was driving down the motorway in my car, I checked my mirrors and did a shoulder check to make sure there was nothing there, moved over, looked in the rear view mirror and there was an angry guy on a bike braking heavily to avoid me, which he did!
I could only assume he had come flying onto the motorway at the previous junction, and seen a clear inside lane and carried on up there, on the M4 between 28 and 29 there's only about half a mile, but it took me completely by surprise, despite the fact I didn't really consider myself at fault I still apologised and he gave me a "apology accepted" wave as he went past me!
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corky25 wrote:
When you put it like that, a quick nod as you pass not such a bad thing.


I sometimes give a nod when I am safely level/past. If a car driver realises what they've done is appreciated, they might continue to do it for others. I don't tend to do it when filtering though, as I'm too busy concentrating on filtering.....
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mumrah wrote:
Maybe I've been exceptionally lucky but I'm actually pleasantly surprised at the sheer number of drivers that move over for me. Not sure if they clock the Ls and decide they're not risking their wing mirror or if they're genuinely courteous?! I'm not complaining though.


Can they make out you are a woman on a bike no this is not sexist, but females get better attention and get given a lot more care when they are on the roads.

If you come off you will most probably have several people come to your rescue, compared to others where they just drive/ride around you.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 15 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm from Stevenage. There is a place in St Albans Ive been looking at for DAS that offers 2hr lessons for £55, rather than doing full day courses. Depending on your skill level, it could work out cheaper... I'm hoping anyway.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 15 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doomsnite wrote:
i'm from Stevenage. There is a place in St Albans Ive been looking at for DAS that offers 2hr lessons for £55, rather than doing full day courses. Depending on your skill level, it could work out cheaper... I'm hoping anyway.


Thanks for that. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 15 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

He did ask!
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