Dog on no leash = fall off of bike!

[ApocalypseBik...]

Yesterday. Was on my way to work in the morning on my trusty Suzuki RV 125, as I exited a roundabout junction of my town to get onto another road, two god-damn dogs NOT ON LEASHES ran under my wheels as I was starting to go through the junction. Asshole pet-owners. Walk your fucking dogs on a LEASH. Next to a busy road junction, I cannot understand dog owner's stupidity who do not keep their mutts on a leash. That's why leashes exist. It's not the animal's fault, it's always the owners.

The result of those dogs under my wheels meant me twisting my front wheel around the animal, falling and scraping on the tarmac for approximately 3-5 meters. I am however always dressed properly for riding, Shoei helmet, scaphoid protective gloves, kevlar-lined jeans, armoured jacket, and armoured boots. I got sharply scraped parts of my bike, but the damage was mostly cosmetic. Worst damage was the bending of my handlebars, but everything was fine and functional, front wheel was true, no damage to the forks. And to think I've been riding over two years now and I was happy to not have been involved in any serious accidents on two wheels.

Personally, I got away with a scraped knee, a badly banged right shoulder, and what felt like, a fractured right big toe. Luckily nothing was broken, just have some bruises and the shoulder is painful, but luckily nothing that time can't heal

/end rant

[c_dug]

How'd the dogs do?

And what did the owner say?

Also, glad you survived and all that jazz.
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I walk/run with my dog off leash.

He doesn't run in to traffic.

By your logic, all bike riders should also be kept on a leash by their mummy/daddy because I've seen them get in the way of traffic .

But yes; if you're not absolutely sure your dog will do what it's told, it should certainly be on a leash - it took me a good long time before I got to the point of having my dog off leash in urban areas and still don't always.

Quite likely you can claim from the dog owner - if they've got household or pet insurance, it can come from them.

[Wonko The Sane]

claiming off the owner?

most household insurance policies include 3rd party liability out and about
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[ApocalypseBik...]

I really don't precisely know what happened to the dogs. Witnesses said that they didn't yelp, and none of them were left behind the scene of the accident. I was pretty shaken since the bike was also squashing me as I dragged on the tarmac

I was in a state of shock to make out who were the dog owners and how I could claim back from them. Now I have to fork out for some new handlebars and a new brake fluid hub cap. Lucky it wasn't worse.

G, animals have unpredictable behaviour, moreso than people on push bikes, I cannot make out how you think it is alright for a dog to be unsupervised dashing off next to a very busy road. I've seen it happen before to others where dogs off of leashes ran into the road suddenly and got run over. You are putting your pet at very high risk by not being responsible enough.

[kawakid]

Is it just me or wtf? A leash

Is this a southern thing? Far northern? American?

Having owned dogs for about 20 years, I have only ever heard the phrase dog lead?

Wtf is a leash.
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[Teflon-Mike]

I had one like that many years ago; only there WAS a lead.. but it was the owner who walked out in front of me... dog had more sense!
Trouble was... it was one of those 'extender' leads....
So until I was three four bike lengths away, all I saw was dog on the kerb and dozzy old duffer in a flat cap crossing road; adjusting road position from going in front of him, to going behind him as he got closer to the other side.... THEN I saw the fucking String between them..... and the VERY worried expression on the dogs face. Was one of those 'His Master's Voice' terriers.
Don't worry no animals were harmed in the making of this anecdote! I swerved and clipped old codger with the mirror.
"Bludy Lunatic!" He swore at me "I'm Eighty three years old y'know! Ought to look where yuz going!"
"I'm twenty one, and I do. But if you want to live to see eighty FOUR, you ought to! Look! Y'DOGS got more road sense than you!"
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[drzsta]

just out of interest which roundabout was this? I know oxford well.

[Polarbear]

My dog insurance is up to 1 million for third party claims and I would expect most to be about that figure. Also some home insurances cover this sort of thing so claim against the owner.

Sadly dog third party insurance is not compulsory and guess who lets their dogs run riot? got it in one, the twats who don't give a fuck about what their dog does.
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[gorillaonabik...]

Glad you're not dead although sounded ruff...
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[stinkwheel]

I think the OP is getting "On a leash." confused with "Under close control.".

Dogs on leads are not necessarily under close control.

Dogs under close control are not necessarily on a lead.
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Keep an eye out for them along the same bit of road in future. That counts as "Dangerously out of control" and is punishable with a possible £5000 fine and 6 months in prison.

My family has always had dogs and they've always been allowed to run free but they're not walked along main roads unleashed* despite the fact that they stop unprompted and sit at every kerb before crossing when told it's safe. It'd only take one cat (or pigeon in one dog's case) to potentially make instinct take over from the training.


*Despite the dislike of the word "leash" over "lead" I can't use "unleaded" rather than "unleashed".
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A good proportion of the general public finds motorcycle riders unpredictable. I expect more road users worry about them being unpredictable than dogs.

You weren't talking specifics. In this specific case, yes of course; I quite agree they should have been on a leash.
And better, taught not to run across the road regardless - as Stinkwheel points out the issue is being 'under control' - a big dog with a not so big person walking them could easily be surprised and have them pull out of their grasp, pull them into the road and so on.

[UrbanRacer]

funny that this thread came up today.
Last night on my way home i had something similar happen, just as i was turning right into a side road a small dog (Pug i think) came running out a park and straight at me barking, it was pretty close to going under the bike but quick thinking i gave it full revs, the Akra's did there job and i kid you not the dog took off in the other direction, it was like something out of a cartoon. It ran straight out onto a dual carriageway shitting itself with the elderly owner running after it lolol

Evil as f**k but i found it highly amusing.

[tactical_pancake]

A quick google found these:

Road Traffic Act 1988:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/27

[Mario_Kempes]

It's no joke. a dog running out on the road caused two people to die last year in Madrid.
https://www.europapress.tv/sucesos/186580/1/mueren-dos-motoristas-atropellar-perro-madrid.html

There's several cases in Spain. A woman was actually convicted a few years back in Malaga for letting her dog off the lead and causing a biker to crash and fuck up his leg.

I almost hit one recently as well. Absolutely shit myself.

[ApocalypseBik...]

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Cats should be banned anyway. Nasty little shits who bite and scratch their owners and kill the indigenous wildlife like songbirds and endangered rodents.

They also shit wherever they like with zero controls in place. Their excremental distribution should be regulated like it is with dogs.
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