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smegballs
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: First Person Defender Reply with quote

Home Invasion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrGfhErqlg
Road Rage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIqX2d_GZY4
Mugging - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dclfBro8ews
ATM Robbery - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpmBJjZkSbk
Carjacking - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIOFJbikCEk
Mom vs Kidnapper - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdRi59MwC7g

Pretty cool concept, trying out self defence scenarios with simunition guns. Pretty much as close as you can get to real attacks I'd imagine.

Difference in players, home invasion is a guy with previous experience, mugging is some generic skinny white guy. I'd watch the mugging one first just to see the difference in his reactions.

Interestingly some scenarios end with no shot fired, which they stress is the best possible outcome.


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PostPosted: 17:42 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooo basically have a gun in all defence situations Rolling Eyes
Was interesting seeing how America advertises weapons & ammo Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I thought that, obviously we never see ads like that at all.

I don't think just having a gun is good enough from the looks of this, without loads of practice you're fucked.

The mugger one is good, I'm watching that one now, kid gets completely owned. It's interesting as of course most people never get a chance to practice how to react until it happens for real.

Ending to Carjacker is good too.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ATM one. Should've given him the money.

If he was THAT intent on keeping his money, he should've just given him the money then shot the thief while he had his hands full.

My brother was held up at an ATM at knifepoint in Edinburgh (turned out later it was a spoon handle). He put up both hands and stepped away from the cash machine. The guy took out £200 and legged it. My brother followed him at a distance while on the phone to the police relaying his location. The thief landed up jumping over the backwall to a carpark and meeting a side handle baton on the upswing. He was jailed for armed robbery.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Few years back my brother got into a bit of trouble with the law when he got mugged for his bike, the robber pulled a blade and said give me the bike so my brother did and used it as a weapon against him and beat him with it the robber was very badly injured and heard on the grape vine (robber was a local scumbag) he was in ICU for 2 weeks, brother got nicked for it.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the mugging video and I dunno if I'm just cynical but I just thought it was the most stupid unrealistic thing ever. The guy claimed it was the real deal etc, but jesus christ they're dressed in full padding with massive face masks, yellow tape to show the border of the area and they go into it all as a role play. The client knows exactly what's about to happen, to a much greater extent than if it really was real life.

All I see really is a 'murican guy saying, "Hey buddy I watched a lot of movies so I know a lot about bad guys and I wanna teach you how I think I would act if I was the superhero in the movie."

I think it was just a load of LARPing.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:
Few years back my brother got into a bit of trouble with the law when he got mugged for his bike, the robber pulled a blade and said give me the bike so my brother did and used it as a weapon against him and beat him with it the robber was very badly injured and heard on the grape vine (robber was a local scumbag) he was in ICU for 2 weeks, brother got nicked for it.


But was he sucessfully prosecuted and what for?
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charges dropped after CCTV emerged showing the mugging.

Not sure of the exact charges but I think it was going to be GBH
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So a good result then.

Even in the US. You shoot someone or beat them half to death with a bicycle, they ARE going to arrest you.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 20 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
So a good result then.

Even in the US. You shoot someone or beat them half to death with a bicycle, they ARE going to arrest you.


Great result but up until that point it was sketchy.
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PostPosted: 02:52 - 21 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

WE have a gun at home for self defense. Never used it in anger but love to target shoot. I guess I am lucky that if anyone is seen in my yard without permission I can shoot them.

The link is another thread ref:guns, you can see what I have been shooting recently page 1 and 2

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=286465&highlight=
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PostPosted: 06:56 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:
WE have a gun at home for self defense. Never used it in anger but love to target shoot. I guess I am lucky that if anyone is seen in my yard without permission I can shoot them.

The link is another thread ref:guns, you can see what I have been shooting recently page 1 and 2

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=286465&highlight=


Is it Filipines you are in?

What the deal with whiteys having guns over there?

My old man frequents thailans a lot, and apparently having a gun is not uncommon for thais but a big no-no for farangs. Apparently no-one looks twice if you have a machete on your hip though (out on the islands not downtown BKK Laughing ) which is pretty cool. I guess it's pretty silly to head out in the jungle without one really. For example from the beach my dad stays at to the town is a 2/3 hour hike through thick jungle, yet only a few mins by boat.

Have an pic of an operateur


https://en.starafrica.com/news/files/2013/01/afp/photo_1358607474282-1-0.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have home defense items. I hope to god I never need to use them in anger, my hope is the thought of getting shot would motivate someone to leave my home.

It was hard to wake up to the fact that sometimes someone is desperate or mental enough to break into your house carrying a weapon.

Home invasions as they call it here happen all to often and usually end up with someone leaving in a slow ambulance.

They say (trainers) that the first 7 seconds getting your weapon and preparing yourself to fire are the most important.

I would rather it stayed in the drawer unless I go to the range. No heroics from me.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have home defense items. I hope to god I never need to use them in anger, my hope is the thought of getting shot would motivate someone to leave my home.

It was hard to wake up to the fact that sometimes someone is desperate or mental enough to break into your house carrying a weapon.

Home invasions as they call it here happen all to often and usually end up with someone leaving in a slow ambulance.

They say (trainers) that the first 7 seconds getting your weapon and preparing yourself to fire are the most important.

I would rather it stayed in the drawer unless I go to the range. No heroics from me.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 22 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The product placement is insane Laughing Everytime the camera is on the dude speaking about stuff the tv advert changes.

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PostPosted: 04:11 - 23 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
Chinaboy wrote:
WE have a gun at home for self defense. Never used it in anger but love to target shoot. I guess I am lucky that if anyone is seen in my yard without permission I can shoot them.

The link is another thread ref:guns, you can see what I have been shooting recently page 1 and 2

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=286465&highlight=


Is it Filipines you are in?

What the deal with whiteys having guns over there?

My old man frequents thailans a lot, and apparently having a gun is not uncommon for thais but a big no-no for farangs. Apparently no-one looks twice if you have a machete on your hip though (out on the islands not downtown BKK Laughing ) which is pretty cool. I guess it's pretty silly to head out in the jungle without one really. For example from the beach my dad stays at to the town is a 2/3 hour hike through thick jungle, yet only a few mins by boat.

Have an pic of an operateur


https://en.starafrica.com/news/files/2013/01/afp/photo_1358607474282-1-0.jpg
Yes, the Philippines. For me I feel safe in our community. I try not to piss anyone off, and my wife keeps me away from the nutters. The trick is to be friends with everyone as much as possible here. From the high people to the low, we will drink with the mayor one night and the next with our farm workers, it really helps. But the gun is for the one occasion we might get invaded. In our town in the last 3 months there have been 3 shootings. One rapist, who got owned by a disgruntled family member, a drug dealer and an ex MPA (terrorist) who tried to leave the organisation.
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