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 orangepeeleo Scooby Slapper
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 Posted: 14:27 - 11 Apr 2014 Post subject: Selling a bike soon, few Q's! |
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Hey,
So I recently bought a huonaio 125, so recently I havent got the v5 yet!
I've scrubbed her up a bit, changed the sprockets/chain/oil and it starts on the button, sometimes have to put the choke half way up for a few mins.
Thing is.. I'm not really sure I like it now, like the riding position or the look in general, possibly the most impulsive and irresponsible purchase I've ever made! My original plan was to get a lexmoto zsx brand new but had a few hundred saved up, done my cbt, got a bit excited on gumtree and bought the closest bike to me the next day!
I think i'll be selling on ebay via auction, was bought for £450 so going to put it on with a reserve of £400, chuck in the cover and top box and hope it goes. I have a few questions though as I have obv never done this before.
1. Because its ebay and distance selling I am going to be very honest in the ad and take as many pictures as I am allowed, mainly close up shots so people can get a very good idea of the condition before they bid and turn up, but it won't be insured by then for a test ride... what should I expect of someone if they want a test ride? I'm thinking winning bid amount of cash in my hand, an insurace cover note and ID that matches the details on the note? Like I said, it starts and runs fine so I'm not trying to be a dodgy bastard, but I am wary about letting someone ride off into the sunset with my bike!
2. Should I do a classified ad or an auction style advert?
3. How do returns work? I don't fancy getting grief off someone in 2 weeks or whatever if something happens since they bought it. Not saying that I know its a heap and something will happen, but it could. Is there a no returns policy on ebay stuff??
Been looking at a few ads and a lot of people say "sold as seen", what exactly does this mean? Are they covering their arses incase something goes wrong?
Thanks for any advice you can give.  |
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Dunno which end of country you're in, but might worth sticking it on Gumtree first, it's free, so nowt to lose, then try on ebay afterwards if you get no joy. Gumtree is definitely very popular down here in London town.
Accept cash in hand only.
No test rides, without out cash in your hand and full details of their driving license (in case they whizz through a camera).
I would check do indeed have insurance. If they haven't and run over a granny, cascading insurance law will fall back to your policy and claim against that.
As per above, cancel your insurance asap after sale.
Ignore the scammer, who rings up and attempts to persuade you to ride it round to their dodgy end of an estate where they'll supposedly give you cash (more like a good mugging).
You're a private seller, it will be sold as seen. Caveat Emptor. ____________________ Beginner Biker Adventures Blog
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Seems a bit premature to flog it. If you're not sure about the riding position, play around with the rotation of the bars, it can make a very significant difference.
Or go a little further (this was maybe £20 in materials and a few hours of reversible fiddling):
https://i47.tinypic.com/28asu2d.jpg
If you do want to sell though...
| Monkeypony wrote: | If they tell you they're insured, you weren't knowingly allowing someone to ride without it. |
There's no "knowingly" clause in the offence, it's absolute. At best good faith belief would be mitigation in sentencing.
Thing is, a typical 125 (and particularly cheap 125) buyer won't have a policy that covers riding other bikes, so judge it on the individual.
Cash in hand if you're poor and can't afford to lose the bike. I'm not, I've never bothered.
Yes to putting it on Gumtree, costs nothing except your time. You may even get lucky with a swap - I swapped my HN for a low mileage GPZ500S.
Save your text in a word processor first along with your pictures. I use numbered files to make it easy to reload them later in the same order.
Pictures.
Age, mileage, condition including tyres, sprockets, chain, brakes.
MOT and tax.
Where it is.
When it can be viewed.
What you are wanting for it.
Don't put anything ranty like "NO TIME WAISTERS!!!!" or bollocks like "quick sale", "first to see will buy" or even "ono / ovno". Nobody cares, you'll get the interest that you get.
When you get cheeky emails or texts "offering" £200, thank them for their interest, and ask them if they've like to view the bike and negotiate properly.
DO NOT crack and say "Yeh bruv all right I'll take £350" to an anonymous "offer", because what you've told them is the most that they'll really have to offer when they turn up later professing ignorance of ever having LOLTXTd or emailed you.
I'd always go classified on eBay, auctions are too likely to result in fantasy bids. Money in hand from the first person to actually turn up secures the bike.
Try not to get frustrated at dealing with the masses of chancers and mongs. You can't stop them, so focus your efforts on attracting the one legit buyer that you need. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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+nine million.
Gumtree and eBay are rammed full of eager fantasists and... well... time wasters. Great if he buys it, but that's a week and a half away, and I guarantee you that he'll still be scouring Gumtree and thinking "Oh, maybe that one..."
I had the same with my Burgman: very nice chap, we "agreed" to conclude the deal in a couple of days, but as he didn't even offer to put money in my hand, I'd cheerfully have sold to anyone else who showed up in the meantime with cash in hand and given not an iota of a fraction of a shard of a fuck.
The ad is decent, but I wouldn't qualify the "starts on the button" part. Needing a bit of choke is normal, not something worth mentioning.
"A rattling at the front which I have not been able to track down for the life of me" ?
Ummmm.
What kind of rattling? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Sell it for cash. If the first guy does bother getting back to you, well, he didn't offer to put down a deposit, what did he expect? He's lost nothing, there are other bikes out there. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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 Posted: 09:18 - 23 Apr 2014 Post subject: |
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Well I'm picking the new buyer up on the way home from work tonight and I'm pretty sure it'll be sold.
Went to the garage to put a few quid in the tank though last night and the bloody dipped beam was flickering, along with the lights on the speedo and rev counter deciding not to come on! Full beam works fine so it is probably something simple like the filament for the dipped beam going or a loose connection, but of all bloody times for something to go wrong it happened yesterday lol
I text him about it and said I'd be willing to knock a bit off the price if he was still interested and he's fine with that though so all good, he seen the ad on the local biker groups fb page so I dont wanna see him at a rideout in the future and look like a cnut for not mentioning the light in the ad, as it would look like I did.
New bike delivered at 17:30 tonight when I'm home from work and the buyer of my old one coming back from work with me, gonna be a bit manic but today could be a very good day!  |
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