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PostPosted: 12:11 - 24 Apr 2014    Post subject: DT50 engine swap Reply with quote

Hello, does anyone know what is the easiest 4stroke engine to put in an old DT50? Looking to use anything from 50cc to 125cc, ideas very welcome. Thanks Cool
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 24 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: DT50 engine swap Reply with quote

beardface wrote:
Hello, does anyone know what is the easiest 4stroke engine to put in an old DT50? Looking to use anything from 50cc to 125cc, ideas very welcome. Thanks Cool


How handy are you with a welder, and with general fabrication? I can guarantee whatever you put in there will need custom brackets making up, and you will need to carefully line up the front and rear sprockets.

That said, my mate is in the process of putting a chinese CG125 clone engine in an RS50 chassis. God knows why...would probably be quicker if he fixed and bored out the original motor to 70cc.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 24 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate is fairly handy with a welder Laughing

Only putting a 4stroker in there for reliability, really not bothered about speed as have bigger bike for that but just want a cheeky little back road commuter c90 engine transplant would be idea or a cg clone like you say but apart from the brackets are there any other probs I might encounter?
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 24 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

beardface wrote:
My mate is fairly handy with a welder Laughing

Only putting a 4stroker in there for reliability, really not bothered about speed as have bigger bike for that but just want a cheeky little back road commuter c90 engine transplant would be idea or a cg clone like you say but apart from the brackets are there any other probs I might encounter?


If that's all fine, the problem we had with the height of the CG clone was the height over the original 50. Had to work quite hard to stop it fouling the bottom of the tank, and had to be run on a pod filter as there was no way an airbox would fit.

A c90 engine (or a bigger capacity chinese clone) would probably be the easiest to fit because of the small dimensions and fact the cylinder sticks out the front not into the bottom of the petrol tank...
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 24 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the replies Sam, will keep all that in mind when the time comes - nice one mate.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 24 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'd be a bit more worried about obviouse non 50cc engine, and re-registering it as new class of vehicle, ie 'motorcycle'.
DT50 lumps pretty tough; abused by generations of 16 year olds for decades; I would think you'd struggle to find something hardier to fit than whats in it, or as 'tuneable'.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 24 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd imagine a DT 50 engine would be pretty robust. If it's anything like my MT5. I did 5000 miles, flat out. I purposely tried to kill it. It has 20,000 miles on the original piston, not sure about rings.

If I killed it, that would give me the motivation needed to stick the H100 engine in.

Each engine should be just as reliable as the other, just requiring different maintenance. I hate to say it, because I'm doing it to, but swapping out the 50 engine to bodge in another, will lose all originality. I think the 50 engine would be more fun anyway. My 50 did 45 flat out and the Yamaha's are meant to be stronger, so you'd have a similar speed to a Chinese CG engine, similar fuel economy, maybe slightly better on the four stroke. But I think butchering a soon to be classic moped isn't the right way.

Just my thoughts though.
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