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PostPosted: 10:26 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Going airsofting Reply with quote

Going to ripon next Sunday and just wondering if anyone's into airsofting. I have been paint balling but never airsofting is it that different?. I was mainly wondering what I need to buy as I can only hire a gun?. Looks fun though.

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PostPosted: 10:31 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decent pair of gloves - something with a bit of padding
Eyeware - glasses/goggles such as joiners glasses something along they lines

Presuming you have an old pair of jeans and jacket also a pair of ankle high boots for protection, some sites don't let you play if you haven't got boots.
If the site has a website they usually have what you can hire or what you need.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I have to wear glasses will I be ok with getting some goggles or something to go over the top?. I guess I could just use my bike gloves and boots?
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could use bike gloves not sure about the boots unless you are not fussed if they get soaking wet and muddy. A few people I know that do it have a pair of £20 cat work boots ( need to check with site if they allow steel-toe caps).

Take lunch with you if it is a long day, extra socks, water.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The muzzle-velocity limit for airsofting in this country is wank, so don't be expecting firefights at decent ranges. Also expect lots of zombies (players not declaring their hits), usually due to the rounds being so slow that most players don't know they've taken one.

Some players with their own guns do mod their velocities but anyone suspected of being over the legal limit (324fps iirc) may have their gun tested and have it banned. They might even be kicked out if it's really taking the piss.
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The muzzle-velocity limit for airsofting in this country is wank, so don't be expecting firefights at decent ranges. Also expect lots of zombies (players not declaring their hits), usually due to the rounds being so slow that most players don't know they've taken one.

Some players with their own guns do mod their velocities but anyone suspected of being over the legal limit (324fps iirc) may have their gun tested and have it banned. They might even be kicked out if it's really taking the piss.


Agree!! But regardless of the fps a wee plastic ball to the eye or finger stings a wee bit and may damage your eye.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

finniee wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
The muzzle-velocity limit for airsofting in this country is wank, so don't be expecting firefights at decent ranges. Also expect lots of zombies (players not declaring their hits), usually due to the rounds being so slow that most players don't know they've taken one.

Some players with their own guns do mod their velocities but anyone suspected of being over the legal limit (324fps iirc) may have their gun tested and have it banned. They might even be kicked out if it's really taking the piss.


Agree!! But regardless of the fps a wee plastic ball to the eye or finger stings a wee bit and may damage your eye.


Goggles are an absolute must, and no site will let you play without them anyway. Get one at close range and it'll probably blind you.

My souped-up AK47 shattered a mate's goggles at approx 30 yards range, also put a round through his lip and gashed his scalp. That was approx 450fps at the muzzle. That's the norm in Japan but I had no chance of getting away with it in the UK and after a few goes at 324fps I gave it up.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm under the impression that mask or goggle hire is included in the price at most sites, especially when hiring a gun.

might be a crap uncomfortable mask, but still a mask.

one of the guys in our group turned up with a darth vader style helmet that rang like a bell when hit,

headshots became the order of the day until he got pissed off enough to jump on someone.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gun hire is normally £20-30 on top of the walk-on fee and includes mask/glasses and maybe 1000 BBs.

If you start getting into it you can buy yourself a gun which saves money in the long run. Either secondhand or if you jump through the hoops to get UKARA you'll be able to buy new from retailers without it being two-toned.

As above, any dark coloured/green outdoorsy clothes you don't mind getting mucky. Alternatively you can go to your local army surplus store and pick up some DPM trousers/shirt etc for fairly cheap. Some stock decent gloves too. Ebay is your friend.

If like me you tend to get excessively warm it may be worth taking a bit of fairly liquid to stop your goggles fogging up. Simply smear some on the insides of the lens and buff off (unless you're given mesh)

Oh and if you're being shot at try not to expose your teeth Embarassed

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PostPosted: 14:53 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice Middle Finger

I have been told gun hire is £15 and Includes 500 rounds, I take it I will probably be able to buy more rounds if I run out or something. I am quite looking forward to it Mr. Green. Just need to get some waterproofs or something.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
zombies (players not declaring their hits)

Laughing

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PostPosted: 00:09 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let us know what you reckon to it Thumbs Up

Only done paintballing myself but I wouldnt mind giving airsoft a go if its decent alternative Smile

Presume its a fair bit cheaper with not needing paintballs?
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PostPosted: 02:56 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, last time I went paintballing it was £7 for 100 paintballs, whereas BBs can be had for as little as £10 for 5000.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to do loads of airsoft, but not so much now.
FPS limit is up to the site, the legal is actually 1 joule of energy as then it becomes an air rifle (well informed as usual Hetzer) even BB's will affect the FPS and gas/battery being used, for example my GBB Desert Eagle will do 320-340 fps and has never been question, however in the summer it would chrono at well over 400fps and it was too much for indoor use, outdoor fine.

As a rule 320fps is what most sites use but also bear in mind most sites aren't run that well, there was one site which allowed 320fps inside on semi auto only, but outside was 500fps and you could use full auto, but you couldn't fire out of a building on full auto with a 500fps gun but you could fire into a building with a 500fps full auto weapon (daffuq?)

Others that consider blind firing is when you can't see down your barrel/both sites, so firing from the hip is blind firing, sideways gangsta firing is blind firing, when really blind firing is shoving your gun where you can't see, like around a corner and firing.


BB's are cheap, pyros are cheap, smoke bombs are cheap.

In the words of my mate who used to run a site
"I advise you wear a full face mask, I don't because I am stupid" 1 hour later he was at the emergency dentist.


If you get hit, and you know you got hit, take the hit, if you think you're getting hit but not sure if it is a ricochet then wait to see if you get hit again, then take your hit. Airsofters don't take kindly to people not taking their hits.

Also bear in mind a lot of people talk a lot of utter fucking shit one site their marshals were "professional airsofters with over 30 games experience" we all looked at each other thinkg "does that make us super elite, seal team ninja's with our many years of games and running multiple sites?"

If you really get into it think about joining UKAPU (https://ukapu.org.uk )which is the players union we set up, I don't do much with it any more as well I don't have the time or money to get back into it, should really but my team mate got married, had a baby, got fat. Shame as we used to rinse people being sneaky fuckers, one place we decimated a rolling regen as attackers, game ended in 5 minutes.....so they sent 14 people in against us on site....three times Laughing I think I might still hold the record for holding one room by myself in Bristol, I ran out of ammo Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: 15:25 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it run similar to paintball at the majority of sites whereby you just book a day and turn up and play with other random people/small groups of friends, or is it usually pre-organised mass-event days that you need to get booked in to/prove you have x-experience in the sport first before they'll let you get in on the action sometimes Thinking

Does definately sound more appealing than paintball on the face of it, sick to death of sites not allowing you to take your own ammo and then charging a fortune for tiny boxes so you have to make every single shot count and restrain yourself from firing for most of the day.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does definately sound more appealing than paintball on the face of it, sick to death of sites not allowing you to take your own ammo and then charging a fortune for tiny boxes so you have to make every single shot count and restrain yourself from firing for most of the day.


This. And the 'three-meter rule!'. Utter wank.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has got my attention Cool
www.specopsairsoft.co.uk/therock.htm

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CQB encounters,combat patrols and full on adrenaline charged battles. Everyone is catered for at The Rock.
What the hell is combat patrols Confused Don't mind a bit of scenario-play but if its loads of people pretending to be soldiers not shooting at another team for ages that sounds incredibly dull Thinking
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Is it run similar to paintball at the majority of sites whereby you just book a day and turn up and play with other random people/small groups of friends, or is it usually pre-organised mass-event days that you need to get booked in to/prove you have x-experience in the sport first before they'll let you get in on the action sometimes Thinking

Does definately sound more appealing than paintball on the face of it, sick to death of sites not allowing you to take your own ammo and then charging a fortune for tiny boxes so you have to make every single shot count and restrain yourself from firing for most of the day.


Public days are, but public days are mostly full of people who can't play properly you will get some teams there but most can't be taken seriously, there is one team that play woodland but refuse to get their camo dirty.

The reason with paintball is people were bringing frozen paintballs.


A lot of people take it way too seriously and run games are certain scenarios, when we ran/run games everything is based purely on what people want to do.

So we would do a rolling regen which is 4 defenders spread out on site and you've got to push them back.

Drug game which would be rival cartels at either end, loads of drug packs around, go out and collect them.

Drug game 2 swap one cartel for police so go out to take out the cartel members, recover the drugs.

Heat, 4 people bust into the bank, 4 bags they have 2 minutes to get into bank and out to extraction before police come in.

Jail break outs

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Some places you go will be crap you really need a decent team to make it fun.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Thumbs Up Perhaps better to try find a single decent site to get membership with then rather than hopping from site to site paying for single days?

Besides a gun and gear [paintball gear i've got already so can probably re-use that I hope] I presume the only real costs is site-entry after that.

Are there any weird regulations about what ammo can be used or will any old standard lightweight airgun pellets be acceptable at most places.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be wanting 0.2g BBs. The little yellow ones you used to get with kids BB guns are too light.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Cheers Thumbs Up Perhaps better to try find a single decent site to get membership with then rather than hopping from site to site paying for single days?

Besides a gun and gear [paintball gear i've got already so can probably re-use that I hope] I presume the only real costs is site-entry after that.

Are there any weird regulations about what ammo can be used or will any old standard lightweight airgun pellets be acceptable at most places.

Standard 0.2g BB's are the norm, buy them stick to them don't waste your money on fancy shit as you can't reuse them.

You can't just go out and buy a BB gun, you need to get UKARA registration so you need play a minimum amount of games over 3 months IIRC (I was playing before UKARA came in and when it was in I just got membership written up, but I bought second hand guns)

Don't bother with all the tactical gear shit either, just get a decent full face mask, yes they obscure vision but BB's to the face hurt, also when you get shot in the ear that hurts.

Costs really
Gun
BB's
Pyros/smokes
You will probably buy a blank fire grenade at some point
Gas if it is gas blow back
Battery
Charger for battery
Site entry
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have over a grands worth of guns years ago, got in a slight bit of bother with the cops (not gun related) so thought it was best I got rid. Too bad, I had some really good stuff, but it's such a hassle to get guns like that with all the regulations now. Used to go airsofting at a place in North London. Dodgy as fuck carrying a bag load of guns on the tube, haha!

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PostPosted: 00:04 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked They look impressive.

I bought a fairly low power air rifle a good few years back now and it came orange-tipped for 'legal reasons'. Is the official airsoft stuff except from those laws if you buy them as a registered member or something Thinking or was that just from gathered from certain online sellers Laughing?
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone got any suggestions as to what clothing to wear? It's in a woody area and a lot of the people I see on youtube have vests and wear full army kit Shocked. Price does include eye and face protection and 500 rounds. Do you reckon 500 rounds will be enough?.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play at the asylum near Kidderminster, usually wearing an umbrella corp STARS load out... Last time I went my gun decided to disengage the motor from the piston and I didn't take tools with me to fix it... Ended up hiring a g36 which was pretty alright tbf!

Loads of fun and a great way to kill a day and get semi fit with all the running around.
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