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PostPosted: 11:11 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: The more I ride, the more I hate cagers Reply with quote

Over the Easter break, dispite the relatively nice weather, I only managed to get out on the bike a few times, but every time, I had a close call from our four wheeled road users.

The most in one trip was a catalogue of incidents.

Pull out onto a roundabout to nearly be T-Boned by an Audi

Riding along a straight bit of road and had a van pull out from the oposite direction, trying to over take into the front of me

Overtaking a line of traffic to have a corsa pull out whilst I was along side him

Clear bit of road behind a toyota to have it slam on the breaks so that she could answer the phone

And finally, going through town to have yummy mummy (or she seemed to think so by the look of her fashion choice), push her pram out into the road to stop the traffic so that she could cross

Some people really do need to have a bit of observational skills implanted at birth.

As it happens, all avoided safely with adequate ob's and a bit of shouting.

Still here to tell the tale

Stay safe out there guys, they are all out to get us

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PostPosted: 11:21 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: The more I ride, the more I hate cagers Reply with quote

dolly3900 wrote:
Pull out onto a roundabout to nearly be T-Boned by an Audi


Surely if you were giving way to the right, this would be impossible?

The sun does seem to bring out the worst in other road users though. I can see there being a definite lack of wing mirrors on cars come winter Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: The more I ride, the more I hate cagers Reply with quote

GeorgeB. wrote:
dolly3900 wrote:
Pull out onto a roundabout to nearly be T-Boned by an Audi


Surely if you were giving way to the right, this would be impossible?

The sun does seem to bring out the worst in other road users though. I can see there being a definite lack of wing mirrors on cars come winter Twisted Evil


That is the point, he was not givin way to the right and pulled onto the roundabout and nearly collected me in the process.

BTW, when they get too close, a subtle size 15 boot to the door does wake them up a bit Wink
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: The more I ride, the more I hate cagers Reply with quote

GeorgeB. wrote:
dolly3900 wrote:
Pull out onto a roundabout to nearly be T-Boned by an Audi


Surely if you were giving way to the right, this would be impossible?

The sun does seem to bring out the worst in other road users though. I can see there being a definite lack of wing mirrors on cars come winter Twisted Evil


only way I could see this happening is a multi lane round about and the audi tried to exit from the outside lane?
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not exactly the right forum to say this, but people using the term 'cager' to describe car drivers hits a bit of a nerve.

Perhaps if you adjusted your state of mind on the road, dropped the superiority complex, you might not be getting into these situations so often.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: The more I ride, the more I hate cagers Reply with quote

dolly3900 wrote:
BTW, when they get too close, a subtle size 15 boot to the door does wake them up a bit Wink


If you put a boot on my door you would be off that bike quicker than you could say smidsy Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinigami wrote:


Surely if you were giving way to the right, this would be impossible?

The sun does seem to bring out the worst in other road users though. I can see there being a definite lack of wing mirrors on cars come winter Twisted Evil


only way I could see this happening is a multi lane round about and the audi tried to exit from the outside lane?[/quote]

It's simple. You're on the round about going about your business, and an Audi from your left decides to pull into the side of you. what don't you get about that?

It happens a fair bit, as opportunistic drivers (mostly bus drivers) just pull onto the round about even though you're on it.

My biggest gripe with other motorists is a failure to indicate and to get into the correct lane in a timely manner.

Other than that it's not moving over when something has caught you on the motorway.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

maxp wrote:
Probably not exactly the right forum to say this, but people using the term 'cager' to describe car drivers hits a bit of a nerve.

Perhaps if you adjusted your state of mind on the road, dropped the superiority complex, you might not be getting into these situations so often.


I don't see how his state of mind would prevent a dozy idiot (regardless of vehicle) pulling onto a round about when there is already another vehicle there that said idiot should be giving right of way to.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day we all mistakes cars,bikes,cyclists,lorries the list goes on. As long as you can stop in the distance needed and beware of tits at junctions oh and the famous "obs" should be fine. Ride safe buddy.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Other than that it's not moving over when something has caught you on the motorway.


I tend to be a bit obstinate about this. I'm sharper than 90% of motorway users so I'm always in the correct lane, moving over when I can and such. But if you tailgate me when I can only go as fast as the car in front, am I fuck moving out of anybody's way.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite frankly anyone that describes drivers as 'cagers' needs a wake up call..

We all know there are some complete utter divs on the roads, the best thing to do is try predicting them, better observations.

I'm sure we could make countless threads on car drivers being utter tards, but unfortunately i's a fact of life Thumbs Down

Try not to let it get to you and get out of harm's way. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cager term is a bit Funny really I drive a Car (as do many others on BCF) I assume that qualifies me as a "Cager" yet I also own a Motorcycle or 3 So what does that make me?
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikertomm wrote:
Quite frankly anyone that describes drivers as 'cagers' needs a wake up call..:


This and OP, seems like a normal journey no matter what vehicle you are in / on.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knacker wrote:
The Cager term is a bit Funny really I drive a Car (as do many others on BCF) I assume that qualifies me as a "Cager" yet I also own a Motorcycle or 3 So what does that make me?


Organ Donor that also may come in a Cage.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikertomm wrote:
Quite frankly anyone that describes drivers as 'cagers' needs a wake up call..:


Yep, especially as I see many bikers riding like utter
_unts - sometimes the odd rider even makes me think 'you really need a brake check you stupid _______' but don't cos I ride.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh God, here we go again, summertime innit Wink

American 'riders' seem to be responsible for the term 'cager' - what a ridiculous way to describe the 90% of people that we share our great road system with. The concept that anyone not in a 'cage' is 'free' is flawed at the very least - especially in November in the pissing rain... Laughing

That does indeed sound like the average days riding - difference being that I try not to let it bother me any more, no point in getting stressed about it Wink

Don't forget, everyone makes mistakes, bikers included (I'm fortunate enough to live on the Dorset coast, so I see a lot of summer bikers making a lot of silly mistakes!) - give em space and move on with your life Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using the term cager is no different than calling a motorcyclist a biker.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh God, here we go again, summertime innit Wink

American 'riders' seem to be responsible for the term 'cager' - what a ridiculous way to describe the 90% of people that we share our great road system with. The concept that anyone not in a 'cage' is 'free' is flawed at the very least - especially in November in the pissing rain... Laughing

That does indeed sound like the average days riding - difference being that I try not to let it bother me any more, no point in getting stressed about it Wink

Don't forget, everyone makes mistakes, bikers included (I'm fortunate enough to live on the Dorset coast, so I see a lot of summer bikers making a lot of silly mistakes!) - give em space and move on with your life Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 12:18 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that half of the problem is bikers attitudes towards car drivers! I have come to this idea because in the recent weeks when i've been driving my mum's car, every single biker I have come across has ridden like a complete wanker! tale gating, bullying me into moving over, nearly having a head on collision with me when overtaking etc etc. I'm almost embarrassed that I ride a bike.

I can quite see why "cagers" are so nasty towards bikes, as proportionally, more bikers seem to be idiots than car drivers. I do however think that a dozy, phone using car diver is a reason to get pissed off Smile
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always thought of "Cager" as a description rather than an insult. i.e. they are driving about in a cage, whereas bikers are not.

Now, thats not to say that I won't think "Bloody cager" when one cuts me up, but I'm as apt to think "Bloody woman" or similar. Its not really meant to be derogatory, or a reflection that I think that all "insert nouns" are the same, its just that you need a noun on the end of "bloody", and cager is as good as anything.

Maybe its just me, maybe everyone else only uses cager in the context of an insult.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathan A wrote:
I think that half of the problem is bikers attitudes towards car drivers! I have come to this idea because in the recent weeks when i've been driving my mum's car, every single biker I have come across has ridden like a complete wanker! tale gating, bullying me into moving over, nearly having a head on collision with me when overtaking etc etc. I'm almost embarrassed that I ride a bike.

I can quite see why "cagers" are so nasty towards bikes, as proportionally, more bikers seem to be idiots than car drivers. I do however think that a dozy, phone using car diver is a reason to get pissed off Smile


True 'dat.

That said it seems especially relevant at this time of year - the reason that there's a spike in accident stats is that a whole bunch of people dig their shiny bikes out of the garage, move aside the Porsche (or Mondeo!) and madly polish them up for the next sunny Sunday.

We're all on the same kit, but I suppose my opinion is slightly biased as all I seem to see around here is shiny summer bikers hassling everyone else because it's Sunday... Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might I apologise for any offence caused by my referring to car drivers as Cagers, I was under the impression that this was the accepted term for such people (myself included) when not on two wheels when indicating them on this forum.

I stand corrected and shall refrain from using the derogatory and obviously offensive term again, now that I find myself enlightened and suitably chastised.

I appreciate that as a relatively new member of the motorcycling fraternity, I have a lot to learn about, along with 25 years of bad habits picked up from driving to rectify, although I do pride myself on being able to read the road ahead and anticipate the actions of other road users.

That said, I was merely attempting to point out that I had previously not encountered so many blatant instances of very poor driving/road use in one short journey and whilst I would not say that I am a perfect driver/rider, far from it, I do like to think that if there were another road user in the space I was wanting to occupy, I would ensure that they were safely clear of that bit of road, before I attempted to make use of it.

I trust this meets with the approval of all offended parties and reiterate my apology

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PostPosted: 12:34 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offence taken here Laughing Thumbs Up

The accepted term for these users of four wheeled transport is generally "WANKERS" Wink Laughing

This can be modified with a number of extraneous exclamations / ejaculations dependant on the circumstances in which one finds oneself... Cool
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing why am i being quoted on random things i've not said Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been riding for years and I don't think I've had that many close calls in the last five years, let alone weeks.

I'd say if that happened to me I'd be examining my own riding rather than the driving of cagers who act exactly as you'd expect, IE unpredictably.
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