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Robster
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Lower back pain Reply with quote

Been suffering lower back pain for a while now, on and off for the last 5 years or so - as a result of sit down computer jobs and inactive lifestyle - which i'm trying to rectify.

Missed work today as I attempted a spot of light weight lifting at a mate's house yesterday, and threw my back out.

In the last couple of hours i've jus managed to leave my bedroom, slowly make my way downstairs and make some food, but every time I do this it seizes my back up again.

The hilarious thing is, I left my phone in said friend's garage yesterday Brick Wall so can't even ring him to fetch me food/painkillers etc.

Any tips/stretches you lot know to rectify back issues? its in my lower lumbar an spreads across the whole width of my back, with occasional shooting pains down my leg/arms, and cramping up beneath my shoulder blades if I lie down flat on the ground.

As i've just moved to this area, i'm not registered at the docs yet, and by the time I could stand up and walk around, they'd closed Sad

Will add i've been to docs regarding this pain before and the solution was chuck some Naproxen on it and stretch it a bit....
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: Lower back pain Reply with quote

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Any tips/stretches you lot know to rectify back issues? its in my lower lumbar an spreads across the whole width of my back, with occasional shooting pains down my leg/arms, and cramping up beneath my shoulder blades if I lie down flat on the ground.


Ice it for a few days. Then, try to resume daily activities (GENTLY!) and use heat instead. If you have someone who can massage the sore area for you, great.

If you've had problems for five years, go to a chiropractor. Seriously, it's worth it.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:44 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Physiotherapist........does what an Osteopath does but a damn' sight cheaper but frankly once you've got problems with the lower back you've probably got them on and off for life. I ended up with having a 'double-decompression' operation where two discs were deliberately collapsed. Still got a knackered back but less pain !. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Case: That sounds like a whole heap of fun

Docs tomorrow morning before work, gonna sleep on the floor tonight and see if it makes a difference
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate, I feel for you. I have bad back pain and a couple of years ago, nine months worth of sciatica which pretty much immobilised me. Shooting pain down right leg almost constantly and was throwing down Tramadol and diazipam at regular intervals. Never understood how someone could get addicted to prescription painkillers until then.

I went to ostepaths, physiotherapists and neither did any good. I was on the verge of having an operation to readjust the bulging disc in my back when I came across these ...

https://www.bioflow.co.uk/

They were an absoloute miracle cure and I haven't had any backpain since. Some of the testimonials are pretty conclusive ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7qp6pqJk9w

I am the biggest sceptic going and only tried these as they had a 3 month money back guarantee. Honestly mate, try it and after 3 months if no joy get your money back. I've recommended these to friends and every single one of them has noticed an improvement.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Motor, might be worth a punt, looks interesting, wonder how it works

edit: something like this?
https://www.magnet-healing.co.uk/magnetic-pain-relief.html

i'd really like to get this sorted, as I wanna get in shape and do some travelling later this year, second day off work and bed-bound Sad
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go to your GP I'll bet the stock answer is 'lose weight'.

You may need to get referred to a physio. Our local system allows you to self refer via a form you get from GP surgery.

As for pain relief now take co-codamol if you can and team up with anti-inflamatory, i.e. ibuprofen. You can take both together and the combination does work.

Hope you get sorted.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RoboRider wrote:
Cheers Motor, might be worth a punt, looks interesting, wonder how it works

edit: something like this?
https://www.magnet-healing.co.uk/magnetic-pain-relief.html

i'd really like to get this sorted, as I wanna get in shape and do some travelling later this year, second day off work and bed-bound Sad



Yep that's pretty similar. They use them on race horses and domestic animals too with great success. Its also reputed to improve fuel efficiency too although I haven't tried it personally.

It was discovered belive it or not by the Luftwaffe during World War Two. Three transport aircraft set off with one transporting magnets and when they landed, it was discovered that the one carrying magnets had used considerably less fuel that the ones without. Its all to do with ions and stuff.

As for taking co-codamol - I had 6 codine injections when I first got sciatica it was that bad. I didn't shit for over two weeks. Codine is average as a painkiller but upsets the hell out of my stomach.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still off today, can get up and move about alright, the drugs and stretching, and also getting enough sleep, definitely helps. Was attempting to sleep on the floor but that wasn't happening, so back to my slightly soggy mattress.

Still get shooting pains down my legs and the stiffness creeps up my back after about a minute on my feet. On the upside, its given me loads of time to contemplate my life and consider a different career path, as sitting in front of a computer clicking buttons all day doesn't seem to agree with me or my waistline.

What is a good profession that keeps you on your feet all day? pays reasonably and sees you outside most of the time? post man? decorator? door to door salesman? (loljk)
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RoboRider wrote:
...What is a good profession that keeps you on your feet all day? pays reasonably and sees you outside most of the time? post man? decorator? door to door salesman? (loljk)

Gardener? Seriously, is there a demand/need for something like a mobile service?

However, if serious need to differentiate between gardening and pikeys offering to lop trees/bushes down for extortionate amounts (and offering to fix the drive because they've some spare from a job around the corner).

Best of luck getting sorted with injury and career Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Funny enough, my dad ran a garden centre about ten years ago, successful business too...

He hates gardening though.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got back pain, you'll probably have it for the rest of your life. DON'T take a manual job, belive me you'll regret it. I was a bricklayer and hod carrier and that has caused me to have back pain for the rest of my life.

Concentrate on losing weight and strengthening your core muscles, this will go a long way to preventing back pain.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorhate wrote:
If you've got back pain, you'll probably have it for the rest of your life. DON'T take a manual job, belive me you'll regret it.


I don't entirely agree. I was told a few years back I'd be in a chair by now, while I agree with the point about weight loss and toning I think physical work in moderation is helpful. One of my income streams is gardening/general handyman/plastering and I honestly do believe that keeping active has helped keep my spine in some semblance of working order.

While I've got every sympathy (I still wake up some days and even breathing hurts) I did have to laugh when I saw this thread directly under the post about hitting an intensive Muay Thai camp Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had back and neck pain for many years from accidents mostly in my past. I have tried physio, osteo, chiro over the years and have in recent times found a fantastic Osteo, who seems to know exactly how to fix me. I usually see him every 6mths just to get clicked back in place / have a deep tissue massage...because I now have literally no pain. And wish to keep it this way.

I currently have a fairly physical job, which keeps me supple and keeps me moving and I haven't needed to see him for a while...so I wonder if this gentle exercise is actually doing me some good as opposed to something I should avoid. Inactivity and lots of sitting certainly seems to aggravate the back / neck more. Karma Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
Motorhate wrote:
If you've got back pain, you'll probably have it for the rest of your life. DON'T take a manual job, belive me you'll regret it.


I don't entirely agree. I was told a few years back I'd be in a chair by now, while I agree with the point about weight loss and toning I think physical work in moderation is helpful. One of my income streams is gardening/general handyman/plastering and I honestly do believe that keeping active has helped keep my spine in some semblance of working order.

While I've got every sympathy (I still wake up some days and even breathing hurts) I did have to laugh when I saw this thread directly under the post about hitting an intensive Muay Thai camp Laughing


I used to be more active when I was younger, when I worked for the family business I was moving all day, only sat down at lunch time, spent Saturday morning lifting 25-30kg bags of gravel from a warehouse onto a shop floor, cleaning, building, lifting etc. etc.

Blame myself for studying a computer-based course I guess. Also yeah, bit weird to think about 3 months of intensive fitness training whilst I can barely make it up and down the stairs at the moment. But up uintil recently, I was at the gym 3 days a week, swimming once a week, cycling to work every day, basically living quite well, back pain was still there but minimal compared to now. As soon as I stop this happens Sad
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RoboRider wrote:
Blame myself for studying a computer-based course I guess. Also yeah, bit weird to think about 3 months of intensive fitness training whilst I can barely make it up and down the stairs at the moment. But up uintil recently, I was at the gym 3 days a week, swimming once a week, cycling to work every day, basically living quite well, back pain was still there but minimal compared to now. As soon as I stop this happens Sad


Sounds similar to me, I used to be very fit, into weights, Mauy Thai 2 or three times a week, running and occasionally swimming. As soon as I stopped the back pain returned. Its also an age thing where your core muscles weaken if your not active. If you want to minimise the risk of it returning, you need to get back into a fitness regime that concentrates on core strength.
Also, look at your posture and the chair you are sitting on. I spent 300 sheets on a chair for my back.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorhate wrote:
RoboRider wrote:
Blame myself for studying a computer-based course I guess. Also yeah, bit weird to think about 3 months of intensive fitness training whilst I can barely make it up and down the stairs at the moment. But up uintil recently, I was at the gym 3 days a week, swimming once a week, cycling to work every day, basically living quite well, back pain was still there but minimal compared to now. As soon as I stop this happens Sad


Sounds similar to me, I used to be very fit, into weights, Mauy Thai 2 or three times a week, running and occasionally swimming. As soon as I stopped the back pain returned. Its also an age thing where your core muscles weaken if your not active. If you want to minimise the risk of it returning, you need to get back into a fitness regime that concentrates on core strength.
Also, look at your posture and the chair you are sitting on. I spent 300 sheets on a chair for my back.


This and eventually when I find myself in my own digs, i'm splashing out at least a grand on a good quality firm mattress... When I visit the folks up in Lancs, I get to sleep on a £600 single bed and get the best night's sleep ever - 12 hours undisturbed, and wake up pain free.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RoboRider wrote:
This and eventually when I find myself in my own digs, i'm splashing out at least a grand on a good quality firm mattress... When I visit the folks up in Lancs, I get to sleep on a £600 single bed and get the best night's sleep ever - 12 hours undisturbed, and wake up pain free.


I haven't slept regularly in a bed in years - I always sleep on the floor whenever possible. I get a great nights sleep and it does help with the back pain if I raise my knees slightly.

Its also worth looking at your office chair and AVOID sitting on hard kitchen chairs for any length of time. They really aggravate a bad back.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got a cheapy version of what Motorhate posted, and makes a damn big difference, basically a back support belt with some magnets in the back. Can walk upright now, first time in a week! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My back is also fucked. It always hurts, with the occasional immobilising flare-up. I'm having one right now. Always fun persuading my wife to put my socks on for me.

Chiropractor helps, but you need to keep going. The feeling of relief at the end of the session where they do the final big clunk on your back and it stops hurting is better than opiates. The problem for me is finding the time to keep going to one. Can get quite expensive too.

Going to the gym helps, when I used to lift weights I was in a lot less pain. This means finding time for the gym, which is tricky for someone chronically lazy.

My current method is to ignore it until it gets really bad, and make sure I have a stash of co-codamol hidden somewhere for the bad flare-ups. Something like a weightlifting belt or a gentleman's girdle would probably be useful too.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh can i get involved on this too...

my back first "popped" when carrying paving slabs - yeah i know now your suppose to walk them.

since then occasionally maybe once or twice year it flairs up, the last time was about a month ago gettign out of the shower, reaching up for the towel an i felt my back "pop" following by hot pain in my lower back

after a week or so its back to normal

but if i sneeze really bad i get a searing pain

im 31 pedal every day an im pretty active

bad times yo!
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Co Codamol has turned my shit into archeological remains... i'm stopping this shit immediately (pun intended) fucking hell...

I reached the point of no return today, started growing a tail, got stuck, couldn't suck it back up so just had to power on through. Was picking bits of it out hoping it would help, felt like fucking stones!

Properly eggbound Sad

I'll finish the Diazepam though, lovely stuff
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osteo/physio for a session or two.

An ex of mine was a personal trainer and started to specialise in sports injuries, he recommended an osteopath to me after I hurt my lower back wakeboarding. She spent a lot of time working the whole of my back before cracking everything back into place, I felt so much better afterwards. I was sent away with a bunch of exercises to do to strengthen the muscles in my lower back and thus so far I have not had a repeat of that injury. Expensive but well worth it.

I also found out that I have an extra vertebrae in my spine. Which was nice.
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PostPosted: 02:56 - 03 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have scoliosis and sway back. The sway back I think I got from my dad, the scoliosis seems more the result of falling awkwardly in gym class.

Chiro keeps me active and generally without pain, combined with not doing anything I know will aggravate it. Unfortunately, standing still or walking slowly for more than 15 mins are among the things that my back doesn't like.
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