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PostPosted: 12:44 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Another incentive to stay lazy Reply with quote

Just came across this:

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=7240473

Seemed like a normal average paying job...........until I read the wage. Who the fuck in their right mind would apply for a minimum wage job with those requirements? Is there any incentive to spend time obtaining FLT licenses and other experience in return for minimum wage? I could get minimum wage jobs that are far less demanding. Most likely why the vacancy came about in the first place.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: Another incentive to stay lazy Reply with quote

TheBikerStig wrote:
Just came across this:

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=7240473

Seemed like a normal average paying job...........until I read the wage. Who the fuck in their right mind would apply for a minimum wage job with those requirements? Is there any incentive to spend time obtaining FLT licenses and other experience in return for minimum wage? I could get minimum wage jobs that are far less demanding. Most likely why the vacancy came about in the first place.


"FLT license is desirable, but not essential, as training will be given"... so anyone who wants a FLT license and to earn while they get it. I expect the wage would go up after qualifying too.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because FLT driving is no more difficult than packing boxes of fluffy toys for amazon on minimum wage.
In times of desperation I have done FLT jobs to get by, it's piss easy and has always lead to better jobs.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fisty wrote:
Because FLT driving is no more difficult than packing boxes of fluffy toys for amazon on minimum wage.
In times of desperation I have done FLT jobs to get by, it's piss easy and has always lead to better jobs.


This. Its not exactly brain surgery is it ? Its essentially a driving job.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

swampy wrote:


This. Its not exactly brain surgery is it ? Its essentially a driving job.


You would think so wouldn't you....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURaQfvM3XM

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PostPosted: 16:26 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: Another incentive to stay lazy Reply with quote

TheBikerStig wrote:
Who the fuck in their right mind would apply for a minimum wage job with those requirements?


They are only asking for pretty standard stuff to be fair, they can't exactly put 'looking for average candidate who won't rob stuff'

It's a sign of the times that before the recession that would have probably been an £8-£9 per hour job although part of the problem is probably location, I don't know the area but Merthyr Tydfil screams high unemployment to me.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fork lift truck driving is a boring tedious repetitive job and best left to people with little imagination. No reason why it should attract premium pay.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything that I'm forced to do over and over again for 40 hours a week would become boring and tedious after a while, even making love to hot women (ok that was a bad example Smile )
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 25 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im doing a job for the same wage I was on about 8 years ago, a massive cut in pay compared to my last job.I know that in a years time i can start looking for operations Managers positions on nearly double the money.

I know the boss has me doing the same job as his last operations manager for 8k a year less and the company are known bad payers. Its better than the dole and i can now hold my own discussing most commercial diving stuff. Im being positive. Its a means to an end.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This won't be a FLT licence that you can take anywhere else with you to another job. It will basically be an "in-house" licence in the form of some training on site. Just a case of an instructor giving you a half hour assessment.

FLT jobs are not that well paid anyway, it's not hard, it's not considered a "skill" and certainly isn't gonna get you £9 an hour for a day job.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get roughly £9 per hour as a warehouse operative, but my main duty is using the FLT reach and we get an extra £60 per month for it.

It's repetitive and tedious, really really boring job
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

until last week i was a ware house op and drove the forklift

used to be a well paid job but seems to have gone to shit now

ive had a licence since i was 18 and was on £9 an hour then im now 35 and was on just over min wage
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
until last week i was a ware house op and drove the forklift

used to be a well paid job but seems to have gone to shit now

ive had a licence since i was 18 and was on £9 an hour then im now 35 and was on just over min wage


I got a job straight from school driving forklifts, £8.50 an hour and all the overtime (at time and a half) you wanted.

We got replaced by straight off the coach Jam Rolls on minimum wage in 2005 which I guess did me a favour as I ended up going to college instead of toiling away in factories with the likes of JiveBunny and Co being treated like shit.

Apparently the Jobcentre sends long term dole-wallahs on FLT courses on the taxpayer tit, which explains why it's a minimum wage job these days.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 26 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

we paid for my other half to get his 16 tonne one as the basic 3 tonne money was rubbish.
, hes worked constantly since but also now has several other categories including overhead crane, moneys not bad either but then hes in oil and gas which does pay a bit more.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 27 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its ridiculous something like FLT even exists. My first proper full time job was when I was eighteen driving a 7'1/2 ton lorry. They didn't even ask to see my licence ad I was out on the road.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking for part-time work for a while (finally found something) but I would consider applying for this if it was in my area. The reason I would apply is that the jobsearch site is absolute shite and just because it says 6.31 to 6.31 doesn't mean that the employer is actually going to pay that.

Had a short term job last year that was advertised as 6.31 but when I applied, I found they were actually paying £9/hr. All depends what you can drop to at the moment as there's more to work than just the money and you don't have to accept the offer if you get the job as long as you have good reason not to (or completely cock-up at the interview if you find out that you can't afford to take the job)
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more worrying thing is its a shift job and its 12 hour days and its still minimum wage. Normally you get a bonus for working shifts and normally get a bit more for FLT stuff as has already been said, the employer is taking the piss.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
nick606 wrote:
The more worrying thing is its a shift job and its 12 hour days and its still minimum wage. Normally you get a bonus for working shifts and normally get a bit more for FLT stuff as has already been said, the employer is taking the piss.


Really? I think the 'shift bonus' is for nights, rather than going in work for 12 hours Laughing


Pretty sure thats jobs going to be 4 on 4 off days and nights. It says in the left section job summary under hours of work shift work. Thats why i said its a shift job and 12 hour days (meaning 12 hour shift).

But even if its just days i would want more for it anyway because its not a standard working week.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

FretGrinder wrote:
This won't be a FLT licence that you can take anywhere else with you to another job. It will basically be an "in-house" licence in the form of some training on site. Just a case of an instructor giving you a half hour assessment.

FLT jobs are not that well paid anyway, it's not hard, it's not considered a "skill" and certainly isn't gonna get you £9 an hour for a day job.


When I first got my license most FLT drivers where on £9-10 p/h and im up north so I would imagine further south could have been £13-14 p/h......

Mine have since expired only last 5 years and it wasn't long after I got mine the wages for it dropped dramatically....

Basically because every tom dick and harry had one....
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick606 wrote:
the employer is taking the piss.

Well, that will resolve itself pretty easily won't it? He won't get the people he needs and he'll have to raise his offer. Or he'll find that there are plenty of qualified people. Or people who get off their arse and apply may find that - as somebody on this thread suggested as a possibility - they're paying significantly more than minimum.

Ultimately the key issue is this: if you only have skills that everybody else already has or can easily acquire, you've got nothing special to offer. Employers don't pay high wages for that kind of worker. So the lesson is, don't be one of those people. Be different.

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PostPosted: 21:22 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to drive a fork lift truck, got shown how to do it in a tea break, and that was that. Confused
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

slowlydoesit wrote:
nick606 wrote:
the employer is taking the piss.

Well, that will resolve itself pretty easily won't it? He won't get the people he needs and he'll have to raise his offer. Or he'll find that there are plenty of qualified people. Or people who get off their arse and apply may find that - as somebody on this thread suggested as a possibility - they're paying significantly more than minimum.

Ultimately the key issue is this: if you only have skills that everybody else already has or can easily acquire, you've got nothing special to offer. Employers don't pay high wages for that kind of worker. So the lesson is, don't be one of those people. Be different.

Remember, the world owes us nothing.


He'll get some Polish person to do it for that kind of money. Anyone with a family and wants a decent standard of living probably can't afford to go that low. He might get some sucker to do it but it doesn't change the fact there still taking the piss. If that is indeed all they are offering
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

_mjs_ wrote:

Apparently the Jobcentre sends long term dole-wallahs on FLT courses on the taxpayer tit, which explains why it's a minimum wage job these days.


That is correct happened to a mate of mine. But i don't even think he was on the dole that long before it happened.
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