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Bunny Lingus
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Who exactly are Company Confidential? Reply with quote

I have been unemployed for a good few weeks now & as most job seekers on here will be aware, applying for jobs since the global credit crisis of 2008 is entirely crap. For example, out of 88 jobs I have applied for over the last four months I can count the amount of replies I have received on one hand. The replies I got aren't offers for work either. They range from 'your message has been received' emails, to 'Shirley is not at her desk right now' & stuff like that. Now, call me a cynic, call me conspiritorial but I don't think these jobs exist. I think the whole job marketplace is riddled with scam & at the forefront of this scam is a shadowy organisation ironically called Company Confidential.

So who are Company Confidential & what do they do? They represent a quarter of all jobs on the Directgov jobs site so they must be a massive operation right? Wrong! They do not seem to be anything. They have no address, phone number, website or anything tangible at all. Don't believe me? Google 'em & see what you find. Nothing but other folks asking 'who are Company Confidential?' So are they a front to enable employers to remain anonymous? Possibly, lots of companies don't want their rivals to know they are recruiting but this is usually reserved for top professionals - I doubt a driving job will be the target for top headhunting finance gurus & I doubt HSS will be pilloried by their shareholders for putting a yardperson job out to tender.

Are Company Confidential a scheme by the government to massage the unemployment figures? Possibly, but what would the govt gain? There will still be the same numbers of unemployed people & this will remain constant as it is fixed to economic growth. No amount of jumping through hoops will reduce the unemployment problem except for the few whose benefit will be cut because they haven't done enough to secure employment. Are Company Confidential compiling a secret database of professionals via the CVs they send in order to sell the information to employers? Well how does that work? Are you going to send your CV with just about your most sensitive information on it to a company that doesn't exist & one that cannot be verified? Of course not! That is tantamount to committing identity suicide right? Maybe people are doing just that.

Maybe I'm just old fashioned & not hip to the caper but this shit stinks & from now on I'm just going to hit up companies direct. A fake is a fake - even the most secretive & security obsessed American companies like the Carlyle Group & the Blackstone Group have offices, phone numbers & websites. Company Confidential are a fucking phantom!
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The company name is confidential. That's all it is.

The company want your applications to go through the job centre, probably because of how many applications there will be for the one vacancy.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick search shows you are correct, nothing shows up. This could be a result of the words being very common of course.

I wonder if a FoI request would return anything?
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
A quick search shows you are correct, nothing shows up. This could be a result of the words being very common of course.

wtf did you search for? Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is this thread on JobStreet.com that appears to answer the question.

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PostPosted: 14:57 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this. Seems 'they' are a collective of recruitment agencies, some sort of umbrella organisation or non-organisation.

https://blog.zois.co.uk/2013/05/who-is-company-confidential/
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bunny Lingus wrote:
Found this. Seems 'they' are a collective of recruitment agencies, some sort of umbrella organisation.

https://blog.zois.co.uk/2013/05/who-is-company-confidential/

"At time of writing, ‘Company confidential’ seems to be a widely used vehicle by Agents, who for reasons of their own, want it to be superficially anonymous."

It's not an umbrella organisation, the company just wants their name to be confidential. It's nothing complicated and there are no conspiracy theories.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Bunny Lingus wrote:
Found this. Seems 'they' are a collective of recruitment agencies, some sort of umbrella organisation.

https://blog.zois.co.uk/2013/05/who-is-company-confidential/

"At time of writing, ‘Company confidential’ seems to be a widely used vehicle by Agents, who for reasons of their own, want it to be superficially anonymous."

It's not an umbrella organisation, the company just wants their name to be confidential. It's nothing complicated and there are no conspiracy theories.


Right, I geddit. But wtf? Why would they want to remain anon? Why Ste? Why am I still unemployed? I'm a good guy, from a good famileeeeeeeeeeee! There must be a sodding conspiracy. They just want my CV so they can bin it, the bastards...
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably want the company to remain anonymous so they only receive applications through their own approved avenues (i.e. job centre, recruitment agencies etc) rather than anyone sending in an application and flooding them with CVs
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe because the recruitment agencies don't want you going directly to the hiring company with your "gi's a job" letter?
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet if you look at the side bar quite often it reveals who the company happens to be due to them using a company email address.


You can usually find out who it is by going through the JC hotline thingie as they will tell you were is it and added with the job description you can narrow it down to 1-2 companies.
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why?
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The company want your applications to go through the job centre, probably because of how many applications there will be for the one vacancy.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Stop it!
That means I'm a wanker & no one wants to employ my sorry arse.
I can't bear the truth...
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Why?
Ste wrote:
The company want your applications to go through the job centre, probably because of how many applications there will be for the one vacancy.


It could be for a number of reasons, IIRC there is a rule where you have to advertise for a set amount of time before you can hire a non EU immigrant.

Much like high washing machine prices so they can discount it later, it allows them to fiddle the advert period.

Also remember job centre jobs are generally low quality jobs and they advertise it in such a manner so our fascist system can top up the low wages via tax credits subsidising the employer.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a range of things to me.

Knowing the company name (for shitty jobs) might put folk off applying and there will be inevitable targets to hit at JC+

Data mining CV's?

Also, recruitment companies test the water quite a lot, they don't always advertise a job, they advertise positions then file applications for when those jobs do crop up - they've been doing that for years.

Years ago, when I had cause to go into the job centre, care jobs & those dodgy 'marketing' jobs were never properly identified. It wasn't until you got to the interview you found out you'd either be sticking your finger up some one's bum with a suppository on the end or selling children's books (etc) to shopkeepers in random towns around your part of the UK.

I remember that being really annoying.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
Ste wrote:
Why?
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The company want your applications to go through the job centre, probably because of how many applications there will be for the one vacancy.


It could be for a number of reasons, IIRC there is a rule where you have to advertise for a set amount of time before you can hire a non EU immigrant.

Much like high washing machine prices so they can discount it later, it allows them to fiddle the advert period.

Also remember job centre jobs are generally low quality jobs and they advertise it in such a manner so our fascist system can top up the low wages via tax credits subsidising the employer.



I thought they said that was illegal to artificially inflate prices and have them "on sale" at MSRP
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is likely me going over old ground but 'company confidential' isn't a thing, just a statement.

It's like looking in an estate agents window and saying 'Who is sold? They seem to be selling a lot of houses'

I can understand why companies don't want direct applications. When you see the sort of absolute shit people send by way of an application, it's no wonder they stay out of work for so long.

Might as well write 'Ay mate, gis a job bro' on a bit of bog roll and stick it in an envelope.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Au contraire. I work for Company Confidential. Our activities include:

(1) Scheduling awkwardly positioned and strategically timed crashes and breakdowns on major trunk roads in rush-hours.
(2) Ensuring that the adverts are broadcast at exactly the same time across all channels on your digibox so you can't channel-surf away from them.
(3) Ensuring there are always an odd-number of items left in the supermarket when they're on a 2-for-1 offer.
(4) Siting manhole covers on the natural-line for bikes on blind corners.
(5) Overseeing the design of earphones designed specifically so that you always pick up the left phone in your right hand and the right phone in your left hand.
(6) Enabling the career of Westlife.
(7) The design, implementation and promotion of telematics boxes.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't be hard to get a job really, my girlfriend found out her company was folding on Friday. Had two interviews today, both of which look very promising. She has nothing more really than average gcse's and a year or twos experience.

I think it's all in the cv. I suggest if you are going months without any bites you change something around, don't repeat the same thing and expect different results.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:


Might as well write 'Ay mate, gis a job bro' on a bit of bog roll and stick it in an envelope.


I haven't tried that yet but it's certainly on the cards, although, knowing my luck Yosser Hughes will sue me for breach of copyright.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously though fellas, thank you for your replies. Being unemployed for four months with only my little courier jobs, DJ gigs & a bit of agency work to fall back on is driving me mad. Now I'm getting a bit older I want a steady job that'll fund me through studying the London knowledge. Jobs for life are a thing of the past. Self employment, zero hour contracts & the three day week are the new employment maxims now.
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PostPosted: 05:21 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 months unemployed? 10 years here. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bunny Lingus wrote:
Self employment, zero hour contracts & the three day week are the new employment maxims now.



Thats closer to the truth than you realise.

Apparently I have 5 jobs, they only call me when they need me, so one week can be £1500+ next week can be £75.

Last week was a £750 week, this week appears to be a £55 week.
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
4 months unemployed? 10 years here. Laughing


Shocked Maybe we should reinvent ourselves as an oppressed minority group... Shit, I forgot... We already are. I feel for you Ste, I really do. Ten years is a double hardcore stretch my man! I'm having anger management issues now! Cue the double hardcore music https://www.mixcloud.com/DouchebagLaTrine/hardcore-anarchist-punk/
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