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PostPosted: 22:01 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Friends dog shitting/pissing inside Reply with quote

Friend of mine has a Yorkshire Terrier I believe. He is just under a year old.

He won't stop shitting/pissing inside, and its bloody annoying (and disgusting!).

She lets him out in the morning, and he'll go for a piss/shit outside, then run back up (first floor flat) the stairs, into the kitchen and either piss or shit again.

This happens pretty much every time he is let out (every hour or so for five/ten minutes), plus whenever he is walked.

Does anyone have any ideas on what to do? At the moment she praises him when he goes outside, and ignores him when he goes inside.

He is getting his bollocks chopped off soon, would that help?
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PostPosted: 06:20 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LlamaFarmer wrote:
Rub his nose in it. Literally.



I've told this is a puppy training technique to stop them going indoors. Never had a dog myself so I don't know if it works or if its even a legit technique.

GTFO! That's really bad advice!

You don't punish the puppy/dog when it does wrong, you reward them when they do right and you do this with praise (your tone of voice is important), attention and possibly some food based treat.

JFK, your friend needs to go outside with the dog and keep saying whatever word or phrase they've used for toilet training to encourage the dog to piss and lay an egg. They shouldn't go back inside until the dog has had a piss and made a dog egg. If they take a couple of dog biscuits out with them and give one to the dog (whilst praising it) when it pisses and give one to the dog when it lays an egg then it shouldn't take long for the dog to work out that going to the toilet outside means food.

Rather than letting the dog out every hour or so, they should be going outside with it when it's indicating that it needs to go out. This will require them to be paying attention to the dog and noticing what it's doing.
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect this has happened because it has been allowed to get in the habbit of going inside the house, so that's what it does.

Agree with Ste, dogs will normally give a sign that they need something, ours for example when she was a pup would pace in circles as an indication that she wanted to go out. Toilet training literally took about 2 weeks from crapping in the house to going outside every time.

Its as much about training the owner as it is the dog. They need to look for the signs.

Rubbing it's nose in it is terrible, terrible advice and will just lead to a miserable dog and a miserable owner. I mean, who wants to have to wash shit off their dogs nose ffs? Confused
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
whatever word or phrase they've used for toilet training to encourage the dog to piss and lay an egg


Funny story...

We got our dog (the one in my avatar) from the dogs trust. He was a stray and had forgotten his house training (if indeed he'd ever been trained). To pre-emptively avoid him going in the house, whenever I went for a smoke, I'd take him outside with me (wife's a non smoker so didn't smoke in the house) and when he did his business, he'd get loads of praise and a biscuit. After about a week, whenever I said "I'm going for a smoke", the dog would leap up all excited and run to the door, go outside and do his thing. This has lead to 7 years on, when want to get him to do his business we tell him to "go for a smoke". People often look bewildered at us as I've since stopped smoking and therefore have no idea why I'm giving that command to my dog.
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dog responding to key word/phrase training...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9JcOZlMlLY

It's completely work safe but you probably want to turn the volume down a bit if you're at the office!
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did say

LlamaFarmer wrote:
Never had a dog myself so I don't know if it works or if its even a legit technique.



Seems it's not a good thing to do, although a quick google search suggests it isn't uncommon
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It works with cats. As a child I remember each time we had a new cat, it would shit indoors, my dad would get its face right up close to it and then put the cat outside. Worked every time.

Not sure about dogs though.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ex was a cruel cunt.
He was horrible to any animals I owned.
One day he terrified my long haired mog so much, it shat out of fear.
He mopped the shit up with the cat. The cat NEVER cleaned itself again. I had to de-mat it, comb it, clean it. It hated being brushed, combed etc.

Don't shove the dogs nose in shit, piss whatever. That's a cruel method!
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

LlamaFarmer wrote:
I did say

LlamaFarmer wrote:
Never had a dog myself so I don't know if it works or if its even a legit technique.



Seems it's not a good thing to do, although a quick google search suggests it isn't uncommon

Don't give advice about things you don't know! Google suggesting that it's not uncommon doesn't mean it's a good thing, it just means lots of people are uneducated and cruel.

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PostPosted: 00:01 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
LlamaFarmer wrote:
I did say

LlamaFarmer wrote:
Never had a dog myself so I don't know if it works or if its even a legit technique.



Seems it's not a good thing to do, although a quick google search suggests it isn't uncommon

Don't give advice about things you don't know! Google suggesting that it's not uncommon doesn't mean it's a good thing, it just means lots of people are uneducated and cruel.

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I wasn't giving advice, I was merely stating what I had been told. I did say I didn't know if it worked or not. Up to OP to decide whether to follow it or not.

At no point did I hide the fact or claim to have done it or that it works.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like LlamaFarmer is getting his nose rubbed in it !
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 01 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poseidon wrote:
Ste wrote:
whatever word or phrase they've used for toilet training to encourage the dog to piss and lay an egg


Funny story...

We got our dog (the one in my avatar) from the dogs trust. He was a stray and had forgotten his house training (if indeed he'd ever been trained). To pre-emptively avoid him going in the house, whenever I went for a smoke, I'd take him outside with me (wife's a non smoker so didn't smoke in the house) and when he did his business, he'd get loads of praise and a biscuit. After about a week, whenever I said "I'm going for a smoke", the dog would leap up all excited and run to the door, go outside and do his thing. This has lead to 7 years on, when want to get him to do his business we tell him to "go for a smoke". People often look bewildered at us as I've since stopped smoking and therefore have no idea why I'm giving that command to my dog.


That's brilliant, my dogs all respond to basically asking them if they want to go out, if they do then they go to the back door or they just go to the back door and get your attention.
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PostPosted: 06:54 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste has it exactly right with one addition.

Make sure outside is boring too. Right up to the point where they do the business. Once it's done, reward then go for a short walk or have a play.

Dogs like being outside. If you take them back in as soon as they have a shit, they'll try to hold out for as long as possible. If they know they get to go for a walk or play with a toy as soo as they've performed, they'll be pushing it out as quick as they can.

A lot of people inadvertantly train their dog to piss outside but to hold on for as long as possible before doing so.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't matter too much now, had a massive falling out with my friend, won't be seeing either her or the dog again.

Thanks for the replies though.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFK wrote:
Doesn't matter too much now, had a massive falling out with my friend, won't be seeing either her or the dog again.

Thanks for the replies though.


Caught you rubbing her dog's snout in it's own shite, did she? Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFK wrote:
Doesn't matter too much now, had a massive falling out with my friend, won't be seeing either her or the dog again.

Thanks for the replies though.


https://www.quickmeme.com/img/b2/b2deafec785c65dc568c0483f5681e5e7d52871134c2123f86abbf872dcb5438.jpg
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 03 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume it's the chick from the POF thread, and she's had another one of her mood-swings Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 03 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

rubbing an animals face in it, just teaches it to be more sneaky and secretive to stop getting caught, in my experience.

the best way is as discussed above. praise every time, take out side and say something like wee wee's. dogs respond to higher pitch sounds better. clicker and treat or just some kibble and just wean them off the treats. Again in my experience of a bassett x springer.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 04 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

We used a combination of a piss training tray, with piss encouragement spray on, and using anti piss/egg deterant spray at accident sites. Whilst rewarding good habits with praise and bad ones with somber and dissaproving tones, whilst moving her to the tray in the act.
Eventually moving the tray outside and the finally junking it.

Now she's 15months and good as gold.

we've also recently had the garden redone, swapping the rotted decking and big skanky pond by previous owner to just turf, with some shingle round the edge, and I've succesfully trained her to only go on the shingle, keeping the lawn a nice, healthy, clean, play zone Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 05 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
I assume it's the chick from the POF thread, and she's had another one of her mood-swings Laughing


Close...it was someone I met on POF, but not THAT one.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 05 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd shit on the dog to prove your dominance in this situation... its what happens in nature
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