No Counter Steering Here

[Suntan Sid]

Please explain what has happened in the following video.

The rider is NOT counter steering!

C/S Not Required, Apparently

Have the laws of physics been broken?
Have we been misled by the C/S gurus?

Anyway,
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[Az]

They should get this guy to do a Mod 1 test here in the UK and record the examiners response

[Nexus Icon]

I'd like to see you countersteer on tight turns like that!
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[maxp]

At the low speeds he's travelling, the centrifugal force trying to straighten the bike isn't too bad, so he can initiate the turns with more body lean and far less countersteer than you would at higher speeds.

Also by the looks of things those are some custom, raised clip-ons.
I doubt the standard 600RR handlebars would be anywhere near as good for this gymkhana business.

[esullivan]

I'm confused. How do you know he/she isn't counter steering? I was expecting a video of someone with no arms or somesuch. Counter steering at that speed would be very subtle. Hands holding the bars very lightly and just a touch left and right, isn't it? Maybe I've completely misunderstood CS...
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That guy must have chicken strips... in the middle of his tyre...
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

He's never above about 20 or 30 mph, so doesn't need to counter steer.

Nice gym work.
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[lihp]

You can see him counter steering quite clearly a number of times in the video.

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[tbourner]

The rider IS counter steering. Not sure why you think he/she isn't.
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[LaurenceR46]

How do you know they're not counter streering? Anything above walking pace should be done by counter steering really, ok you can use your footpegs and body weight to some degree but you counter steer without knowing really. I'd imagine they are counter steering slightly.

Counter steering baffles many people but it's natural haha!
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[kramdra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHdIECkvWt8

36 seconds, 1:19... counter steering?

[MarJay]

He is counter steering. Watch the front wheel.
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[Richy CB1000]

There's a mixture going on here, counter steer plus counter weight steering.

Better example of slow speed tight steering, "counterweight" or "counterbalance" steering, pivoting the bike under you whilst you stay virtually upright (sometimes!) Gives better balance.

Turning the bars in the direction he wants to go. Green lane brigade use that skill more than us tarmac boys.

I think it's a useful skill to master....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9MVY8swO5M

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[Old Git Racing]

Very skilful, wonder how many highsides he's had to get that good?

OGR
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[ws4936]

On some tight bends, he's on full lock - but on some of the faster sweeping bends he's clearly countersteering. As mentioned look at the front wheel.
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[raesewell]

I wonder if he could do that with a pillion onboard
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[evoboy]

When hes cranked right over, touching the peg on the floor, he is steering the opposite way to the lean he is in to flick the bike back up and over.

Countersteering.
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