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randomideal
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: de-restricting 125cc Reply with quote

Just wandering where the restrictors would be, my friend who is fixing my bike (after accident ) said that they would be in the exhaust and the Carb hopefully I can find a Suzuki gn / gs Carb non diaphragm. Would be any other restrictors anywhere else, cheers all. Bike is a keeway rkv 125cc.
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Conzar
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the best form of removing restrictors

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PostPosted: 14:29 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not restricted, its naturally gutless.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They aren't restricted, its just a shit bike to start with, as above.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm aiming to do my das asap but I need something to use now, if I passed my test I would get a bigger bike, cheers
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

randomideal wrote:
I'm aiming to do my das asap but I need something to use now, if I passed my test I would get a bigger bike, cheers

Why not just stay legal?
If you're going to derestrict it, why not just buy a bigger bike instead? (the end result will be the same if you get caught)

Also...are you sure it's restricted? A Google search makes me think there's no restriction...it's power output is at its maximum already.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It probably isn't restricted, but the carb's on those are usually tuned to run very lean due to other country's petrol quality and EU environmental restrictions. My younger brother has a Sukida sk125-2? something like that from 2007. Basicly a near copy of a CG125. He fitted an early carb from a 1980 CG model I think it was, and the exhaust and it will happily sit at 70mph now. Handles terribly but its quick for what it is and accelerates up to 50 as quick as my Suzuki 250 but then again he weigh's half of what I do Sad .
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Re: de-restricting 125cc Reply with quote

randomideal wrote:
my friend who is fixing my bike (after accident ) said that they would be in the exhaust and the Carb

I wouldn't let a "friend" like that fix the clock on my microwave, let alone my bike.

As above, it's not "restricted", it's a low compression 4 stroke 125. It is what it is. If you start chasing more performance you'll just twat it up and make it unsellable.

Why can't you "use" it now?
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A common fault on these chinese engines is an excessively strong spring on the automatic camchain tensioner. Too much tension and it starts to put stress on the main bearings, as well as soak up what little power the 125cc engine is putting out.

Take the camchain tensioner out and see if the bikes performance improves. If it does, try and find a slightly weaker spring, swap this for the stock spring on the camchain tensioner and re-install. You don't want to run the bike for too long without the camchain tensioner as it might cause engine damage. Just a quick ride to see if it is any better will do.

Once you've found the state of play of the camchain tensioner, you might want to have a look at the powerband. Since the bloody Euro-3 laws, most bikes have to be fitted with green (fuel economy) powerbands to satisfy emissions regs and be eligble for type approval and import. If it is green, you might want to swap it out for a red one (top end power - good for motorways) or maybe a brown one (lose a bit of top end for a strong midrange) if you ever fancy trying a bit of off road.
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randomideal
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 03 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piercee100 wrote:
It probably isn't restricted, but the carb's on those are usually tuned to run very lean due to other country's petrol quality and EU environmental restrictions. My younger brother has a Sukida sk125-2? something like that from 2007. Basicly a near copy of a CG125. He fitted an early carb from a 1980 CG model I think it was, and the exhaust and it will happily sit at 70mph now. Handles terribly but its quick for what it is and accelerates up to 50 as quick as my Suzuki 250 but then again he weigh's half of what I do Sad .


Cheers all for the help wouldn't be looking and throwing money at it, will take a look at the Carb and see What I can do, the gs/gmail Carb is similar found one for 20 good condition, will have a look at the original if not might swap them, it's not ideal but best with What I can do at the moment cheers all for the advice.
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