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Monkey King
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: New biker - CBT just passed Reply with quote

Hi all,

Just a brief intro from me;

I've been toying with learning to ride for a few years but with jobs,houses, dogs and other life things its never really happend.

Until my lovely wife and mother decided to book my CBT for a surpsie on my 30th birthday last monday! Having never even sat on a bike for more than 30 seconds i was a tad worried!

However CBT done with no real issue, started the day on a twist and go to get my bearings on balance etc - off on the the road for a good ride around (much more comfortable riding on the road where i already know what to expect having my full license for years)

then another rock around some cones on a CG125 and out again on to the road for some more practice.

initially i thought perhaps just picking up a cheap but fun looking scoot would do me good to get to work on the cheap and afford me some road experience. *update* the scooter terrified me! wobbly vague not very fast thing it was, lucky if i got 37mph down a hill!

After riding the CG and experiencing something with gears/more control I cant see a scooter being very attractive at present. So after some consulation with the wife we;ve agreed to set a budget (not sure how much but likley sub £1000 mark) and aim to pick pu a bit of a rough bike to get me used to the mechanics of riding with a view to doing a DAS in 6-12 months time.

If anyone has any advice on bikes its more than welcome - I have no realy preference at present but would lean more toward a 4 stroke and age doesnt really bother me as this is purely for fun/hobby not solely as a mode of transport.

And any tips on helmets (been looking at the sharp.gov site for reference) leathers/boots/gloves etc is greatly appreciated.

So for now I will relegate myself to the depths of ebay and try not to look too hard at anything 2 stroke or italian!
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Az
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you've gone about everything properly, which is good. I'd be looking at getting a Honda CG125 or Yamaha YBR125 for £1k.

What's stopping you from doing your DAS now? If it's finance then fair enough, if it's that you don't want to jump straight into the deep end with a big bike then you shouldn't think like that, the quicker you do your DAS the better in my opinion.

As for helmets, the best fitting helmet is the safest helmet. A 5* rated sharp helmet that doesn't fit your head well will do a worse job than a 2* Sharp rated helmet that fits your head properly.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 02 May 2014    Post subject: Re: New biker - CBT just passed Reply with quote

Monkey King wrote:
my lovely wife and mother

Where in Cornwall did you do your CBT?

Monkey King wrote:
If anyone has any advice on bikes its more than welcome - I have no realy preference at present but would lean more toward a 4 stroke and age doesnt really bother me as this is purely for fun/hobby not solely as a mode of transport.

Sub £1000 = YBR 125 by default. CG as a backup plan, but they're getting quite long in the tooth.

Thing is, a good example of any 125 will do you better than a shoddy example of a "good" bike like a Varadero.


Monkey King wrote:
And any tips on helmets (been looking at the sharp.gov site for reference) leathers/boots/gloves etc is greatly appreciated.

Phew.

I was determined to go 5* for my first lid. Nothing wrong with that, but now it wouldn't bother me. I'd go by fit and then features, with a pinlock ready visor being an absolute must-have on any full face or flip lid.

For a first set of gear, I'd go Cordura (aka "textile"). RST are a decent mid-range marque. Gloves and boots, whatever you like. I'm currently switching between Goretex lined army surplus boots and a pair of perfectly serviceable Aldi touring boots that cost me all of £20 on Gumtree.

Don't rule out buying used from Gumtree or eBay, you can score some decent gear there. You could, for example, get a set of leather and a set of cordura gear for the cost of one set of new stuff. You won't know what you really prefer until you've tried a few alternatives.
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Monkey King
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 03 May 2014    Post subject: Re: New biker - CBT just passed Reply with quote

YBR and Cg seem to come up the most as reccomended learners - both seem fine to me. The wife is trying to lean me toward a cruiser, Kawasaki eliminator or similar - but I'm not sold on it style wise!

I suppose I'll just have to put feelers out and go for the best I can get at the time!

Helmet wise I need to try a few on, apparenlty i have a bit of a 'square' head but not sure which manufacturers are going to suit best. Quite like the look of some of the cabergs and sharks though.

I'm not ruling out the DAS, but i feel like i need to spend some good time riding a bike and getting to know it before i start going for lessons etc. just beaseu I've had no time on a bike at all prior to my cbt.

thanks for the pointers
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 03 May 2014    Post subject: Re: New biker - CBT just passed Reply with quote

Monkey King wrote:
The wife is trying to lean me toward a cruiser, Kawasaki eliminator or similar - but I'm not sold on it style wise!


Sorry, but she needs to go Tut Tut

If you want a cruiser at any point in your life; if your man minerals dry up, you find an urge to stroke tassles, and your love spuds just lust after hairy men in tight leather chaps - then go get one AFTER you've got a full licence. A 125 cruiser is poor.... very, very poor.

YBR will do fine for learning. I bought wifey one about 6 months ago and TBH I'm always surprised at how much I like riding it. It's got less than 10% of the horsepower my machine has but it's just so light and easy going.

Good luck with it all Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 04:10 - 04 May 2014    Post subject: Re: New biker - CBT just passed Reply with quote

Monkey King wrote:
Helmet wise I need to try a few on, apparenlty i have a bit of a 'square' head but not sure which manufacturers are going to suit best. Quite like the look of some of the cabergs and sharks though.
Helmets wise, as others have mentioned I wouldn't rely or care too much for ratings etc - in a real world accident it might be as clear cut as a fitting helmet being critical, or being potato'd regardless of any ratings. For a new rider particularly if budgets tight, i'd much rather a cheap helmet and more money to spend averaging out other riding gear. Of course in an ideal world everyone would have 5 star rated helmets and top of the range gear but, it isn't likely to happen for most Razz I've used plenty of 50 quid lids that have been fine and very functional, actually better than 100-150 quid lids in many cases, it just entirely depends on the individual helmets fit and how noisy it is etc.

Main thing thats important though is fit - try it on if it at possible, I have bought online before as its usually chaeper for the more budget helmets, but bare in mind you may not get returns/have to pay return postage if it doesn't fit, which can quickly hike up the overall cost. Have a look at some Nitro helmets, have had quite good experiences with them personally as I believe a few others on here have.

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I'm not ruling out the DAS, but i feel like i need to spend some good time riding a bike and getting to know it before i start going for lessons etc. just beaseu I've had no time on a bike at all prior to my cbt.
I wouldn't let it put you off too much - I spent 2 years on a scooter, and a year and a half on a 125 before doing my tests, no accidents in that time and relatively okay riding in retrospect - but still managed to rack up 9 minors on my mod 2 Laughing In comparison plenty of people in your shoes diving straight into DAS pass first time with no minors, it really just depends on the person, don't think ''oh I haven't been riding long - i'll just fail'' as a rule; if thats whats putting you off a bit.
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 04 May 2014    Post subject: Re: New biker - CBT just passed Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Monkey King wrote:
my lovely wife and mother

Where in Cornwall did you do your CBT?


Laughing

Ah fuck. That was teh lulz.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 04 May 2014    Post subject: Re: New biker - CBT just passed Reply with quote

Monkey King wrote:

I'm not ruling out the DAS, but i feel like i need to spend some good time riding a bike and getting to know it before i start going for lessons etc. just beaseu I've had no time on a bike at all prior to my cbt.

thanks for the pointers


I did DAS right after the CBT with zero prior motorbike experience.

If you can handle the 125 on CBT you can handle a bigger bike. Its only a bit heavier.

Seeing people on 125s crouching down with heads laying on their tanks on the duel carriageways trying to save on wind resistance to get to 60 mph is always a good reminder that i did the right thing going straight to a 600cc.


As for gear i would thoroughly recommend a lid that supports a pinlock insert, made a world of difference changing from a lid with cheapy antifog insert to a decent lid with pinlock insert, been fog free since:D
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