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Suntan Sid
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Trumpet T100 = Pipe & Slippers? Reply with quote

This is my current bike:-

https://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu172/Troodos-Pool-Guy/FZ1/FZ101_zps43c9e239.jpg

It's a 2006 Yamaha FZ1-N, it's in very good nick, it does everything that you'd expect it to do, problem free thrills, it's quite appealing in a modern, angular stylee.
It's a toy, I don't commute on it, it's ridden purely for pleasure!
A few days ago an idea began to form in my, tiny, mind, that being a hankering for one of these:-

https://www.ridermagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2014-Triumph-Bonneville-Special-Edition.jpg

A 2014 Triumph Bonneville T100 Black, special edition.

We went to a Triumph dealership today and had a look at all the classic models on offer and I liked this one the best.
Didn't like the alloy wheels on the Bonny, don't like the exhausts on the the scrambler, (would have been tempted otherwise), the rest of the classic range are far to lardy and cruiserish!
They come in at under £8k, new, so part ex the Fazer, (could sell to a BCF'er), some cash on top and I could has me a new bike.
I will book a test ride, couldn't do it today waiting for my licence to come back from, losing it, ahemm!
I've read a few reviews, and watched BCF's very own "Bonneville63" youtube review, although that particular review is not for the T100.
I haven't seen any horrendous reviews, the odd niggle here and there.
I like the look of it, I know the obvious differences between the Trumpet and the Fazer, weight, power, speed etc.
I'm not really bothered about ballistic speeds, razor sharp handling, mpg, or any of that malarkey, a fun bike will do me.
One feature of the T100 is a 19 inch front wheel, which means a slow turn in, dunno how this affects its road manners in the twisties!

What's a, late model, T100 like to live with?
Tell me why I shouldn't buy one?

Alternatively should I just start Ebaying for these:-

https://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c392/golfstuff/masadvert.jpg

Let the banter commence! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsKFsce5phw everything you need to know: (and some nice exhausts for consideration)
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
i've never owned one & only ridden one a few times & as much as i admire triumph for their attempts to get back into the market, the T100 would not be my choice of triumphs, based purely on the amount of work i have done on them.
absolute pigs to work on, silly bolt sizes etc. & the ones i worked on, seemed to have been built to a budget & did not look good after only 2 or 3yrs.

might be an ideal bike for you though, if your the type to not ride it in the rain & mantain it impeccably.
personally dont see the attraction to low powered heavy bikes, but suppose they're nice for a wee run out on, on a sunny sunday afternoon.
belstaffs, flying goggles & white silk scarf, billowing about is optional,
cheers,
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I didn't like the fact that the Bonnie offered me less legroom than my current bike and I reckon the extra reach to the grips compared to mine would become quite problematic on my lower back.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always liked the 3pot thunderbird sport more than the Bonnie, as it still had wire wheels, some chrome etc, but a useful twin front disc front end, 17" wheels with fat rubber, and over 80bhp.

I'm not sure any of the Bonnies are a better motorcycle than the above, and yeah I'd happily trade an FZ1 against a thunderbird sport, but not so sure for the model you have your eye on?
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 08 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

they're good fun, I've ridden them a fair bit and they can be ridden quickly if desired but they do need some silencers though, make it sound like a motorbike instead of a well controlled fart
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PostPosted: 05:29 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is it better than the W800?
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
How is it better than the W800?


I'm hoping to get a thruxton/bonnie or w800, heard good and bad about both - I don't mind slow heavy bikes but am now wondering which is going to have the best build quality and last longest out of the triumph/qwak?!?!?!
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy in my building has one. White.

he parks it outside which I always thought was brave but the local ladrones don't seem interested.

It seems tiny. Green Thruxton round the corner looks much nicer.
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PostPosted: 07:56 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

beardface wrote:
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
How is it better than the W800?


I'm hoping to get a thruxton/bonnie or w800, heard good and bad about both - I don't mind slow heavy bikes but am now wondering which is going to have the best build quality and last longest out of the triumph/qwak?!?!?!


See my post on this thread from three weeks ago:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=288784&highlight=w650

In fact, a good nick 650 is better than the 800, and the 800 is better than the bonnie. With one caveat - and it's an important one - it's so, so much easier to get a bonnie to sound good. You can sleeve any shit onto the rear section, whereas the kwakker needs a serious bafflectomy, and then you're stuck with a knackered system if you want to sell the bike on. And it being the kind of bike it is, gentlemen of a certain age are much fussier about the bastard being stock spec.

And my god does the w800 sound bland. Holy fuck. You thought the 650 was polite - wait till you get an earful of its EFI brother.

However, and in all seriousness, the kwakker is the better bike.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
In fact, a good nick 650 is better than the 800, and the 800 is better than the bonnie. With one caveat - and it's an important one - it's so, so much easier to get a bonnie to sound good. You can sleeve any shit onto the rear section, whereas the kwakker needs a serious bafflectomy, and then you're stuck with a knackered system if you want to sell the bike on. And it being the kind of bike it is, gentlemen of a certain age are much fussier about the bastard being stock spec.

And my god does the w800 sound bland. Holy fuck. You thought the 650 was polite - wait till you get an earful of its EFI brother.

However, and in all seriousness, the kwakker is the better bike.


Cheers Trev, will test ride both before but will bare that in mind - Ta.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure you don't mean one of these:

https://www.oldbike.eu/museum/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/3bath_chair.jpg

Accompanied by one of these:

https://www.heritageofscotland.com/pictures/g-hq527a12a9d4483.jpg

And one of these?

https://antiquescientifica.com/hearing_aid_German_silver_ear_trumpet_Tiemann.jpg

But seriously, take one for a test ride and if you like it then go for it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Islander, you forgot

https://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h105/DameCeliamolestrangler/imagejpg1_zps0a3bdd74.jpg

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PostPosted: 10:37 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

And also...

https://1054236781.n82093.test.prositehosting.co.uk/BA/I/11000/BA11894.JPG
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:


But in that slushy love story thing that I didn't read and we voted in didn't it say over 50? Must be worse..
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Bonnie and I'm 24. Your correct in what your saying; it's not quick by bike standards but it is fun to ride. Personally I think they look fantastic which is what drew me to them in the first place and there is an extensive amount of information regarding repairs and mod's available online.

If you do buy one keep some cash aside for new twin shock's and progressive springs upfront, I got both from Hagon for £289 or you can buy TEC twin shock's for £90 I believe. After that you'll be changing the exhaust, new bars, mirrors, seat, wheels, AI removal,...............
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo, dawg, come hang with the cool kids.

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PostPosted: 22:42 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't get new old bikes, why recreate something that's been done and has it's place in history? Surely owning a bike of this nature is about finding a lovingly restored original.

They also look hideous by today's standards and really would be better if they gave them a modern look with slight hints towards historic versions.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Yo, dawg, come hang with the cool kids.

https://i61.tinypic.com/2d8p2c5.jpg


Nobody wants to spend 8 hours changing the oil though...

...well, one person does.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

beardface wrote:
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
In fact, a good nick 650 is better than the 800, and the 800 is better than the bonnie. With one caveat - and it's an important one - it's so, so much easier to get a bonnie to sound good. You can sleeve any shit onto the rear section, whereas the kwakker needs a serious bafflectomy, and then you're stuck with a knackered system if you want to sell the bike on. And it being the kind of bike it is, gentlemen of a certain age are much fussier about the bastard being stock spec.

And my god does the w800 sound bland. Holy fuck. You thought the 650 was polite - wait till you get an earful of its EFI brother.

However, and in all seriousness, the kwakker is the better bike.


Cheers Trev, will test ride both before but will bare that in mind - Ta.


And I think the Triumph twins are far superior to the W range of kwaks. They are real retro bikes whereas the Triumphs are modern bikes with retro looks.

Everyone has different ideas on what works.

Get a Thruxton, they look and sound the mutts bollox.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I almost want to stop myself saying it, but IMO if it's not a triple then it's not a triumph with any fun involved!

How does these Bonnies and thruxtons etc, compare performance and handling wise to a Thunderbird sport?
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 09 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I almost want to stop myself saying it, but IMO if it's not a triple then it's not a triumph with any fun involved!

How does these Bonnies and thruxtons etc, compare performance and handling wise to a Thunderbird sport?


I must admit, I've always fancied a Thunderbird, because I like the idea of the retro look, with something approaching modern performance.

On the other hand, total retro with more modern reliability is also attractive, so I would probably go with a W800, unless I also didn't mind chucking a few quid/hours at getting a Bonnie to be the bike it could be.

I think it's actually quite a tough choice, especially when you add the quirky Guzzi V7 option into the mix.
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PostPosted: 05:02 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gavbriggs wrote:
I really don't get new old bikes, why recreate something that's been done and has it's place in history?


It's about looks, for the most part. You either see it or you don't. A lot of the way modern cars look makes me shudder, or else leaves me utterly cold. For me those of the '60s and the '70s were the best - whether we're talking your Jensen Interceptors, your Rover 3.5l coupes or your MGBGTs. Same with bikes, imo.

Gavbriggs wrote:
Surely owning a bike of this nature is about finding a lovingly restored original.


One word - reliability. Another word - price. If you can afford to pay 6.5 for a '60s bonne, fine - but if you don't have that budget why would you NOT pay half that for a fairly mint w650?

Gavbriggs wrote:
They also look hideous by today's standards


Soz man but that's just daft talk. The W650 looks sweet as fuck. But if you prefer the modern stuff there'll be no convincing you. I just see plasticy crap lacking symmetry and form, where linearity, point and curve all too often become hopelessly confused.

Gavbriggs wrote:
and really would be better if they gave them a modern look with slight hints towards historic versions.


Enter last year's CB1100.


https://thekneeslider.com/images/2012/11/2013-honda-cb1100.jpg
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PostPosted: 07:05 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer 90's design myself
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