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Benno
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

Got back from work very late last night (around 10pm), put bike on driveway, put chain and disc lock on and then the cover, and left it. I did not do up the clip on the under side of the cover.


This morning I came out to find that the cover was off the bike and lying in a heap just behind it. There's no way it could have come off by itself even without the clip done up!

I've been paranoid all day and tonight I've shifted enough of the crap in the garage to park it in there rather than the roadside driveway and attached every security device I have (including chaining it to a metal ladder).

Is this generally what thieves do, recce the local area's bikes before striking?
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

Benno wrote:
I did not do up the clip on the under side of the cover.


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PostPosted: 00:49 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currenly [finally] moving down to Bournemouth from Bristol. Bikes rarely ever there as it stands. Garage door stays up 90 percent of the time as its just my ex's car in the garage.

Last week I brought the bike down - parked in front of the car and put the garage door down. Usual alarm/disc alarm was on - didn't get triggered [would hear it below].

Came out the next day to find the [latched] door half up - someone had clearly been in to have a look around. Theres a lot of other garage blocks in the area and its not even a high-crime area, so in conclusion I would say the people after stuff are regularly checking - don't take anymore risks than you have to Sad

Mines now garage-defender'ed up and has PIR alarms and alerts on it for when I bring the bike down permanently, but still, if they really want it it'll be gone.

I intend to make it as much hassle as possible though Smile
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PostPosted: 06:04 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ground anchor, a big chain and make sure the garage is locked and you'll probably be ok
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PostPosted: 07:03 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I regularly find my cover sitting under the rear wheel or off to the left of the bike due to the prevailing wind and where the catch points are on the bike ie. under the rear tyre, left mirror, front of bike.

Happens 100% of the time in high winds when the strap isnt secured.

Happens 0% of the time when the strap is secured.

Secure the strap in future and set your mind at ease!
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure its just the wind. Has been bad the last few days and mine has been flicking up
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

Benno wrote:
Got back from work very late last night (around 10pm), put bike on driveway, put chain and disc lock on and then the cover, and left it. I did not do up the clip on the under side of the cover.


This morning I came out to find that the cover was off the bike and lying in a heap just behind it. There's no way it could have come off by itself even without the clip done up!

I've been paranoid all day and tonight I've shifted enough of the crap in the garage to park it in there rather than the roadside driveway and attached every security device I have (including chaining it to a metal ladder).

Is this generally what thieves do, recce the local area's bikes before striking?


Benno; even a halfwit thief would put the cover back on if it was a recce. They would not if it was a kid's attempt and abandoned due to security.
Unfortunately there are many total f/wits so it is not conclusive.
More than likely wind gusts.

Invest in a £10 mini cam that can be set to take pics at one minute intervals or something. I reckon it would cover the overnight period and show if you have moochers.( MD 80 knockoff)

Put something shiney but worthless out. (like a magpie trap )
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

Hugh Farking Cant wrote:

Benno; even a halfwit thief would put the cover back on if it was a recce.


not if they are trying to see if someone is keeping an eye on the bike.
if they take the cover off and it's still off the next night...
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

i.p.phrealy wrote:
Hugh Farking Cant wrote:

Benno; even a halfwit thief would put the cover back on if it was a recce.


not if they are trying to see if someone is keeping an eye on the bike.
if they take the cover off and it's still off the next night...


He uses it for work during the day !
Unless he places another identical bike in its place . !!!!!

Not putting the cover back immediately notifies the owner someone has been at it ? That's the last thing a semi- pro thief would want .

On your theory; they would alter something only known to them.....
bit of litter under the tyre or something.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm ultra paranoid I admit. Even without the clip it's on pretty securely attached though.

Currently bidding for almax chains on ebay and I ordered a fake CCTV camera from amazon Laughing It's got a red flashing LED to scare thieves away!
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike lives behind a gate right outside a kitchen window, i've seen in even light winds the cover levitate off vertically! So don't rule out the wind.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benno; I have a few fake ones as well as a functioning system.

Douse the inside with an anti corrode spray and fit a long life battery.
They don't like the damp.
Add a loop of cable to make it look more convincing !

A burglar will spot it is a dud straight off though it stops kids hanging about,

PIR spotlights rigged to a buzzer are very cheap and a better deterrent.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Semi pro thieves would have had the bike away. However the local scrotes do remove covers as I know. There was no way the cover could blow off my bike but it was off one morning, steering lock was broken too.
And I used mine daily too.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:44 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That will have been the wind. Its been exceptionally windy the past few days.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 10 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i.p.phrealy wrote:
Semi pro thieves would have had the bike away. However the local scrotes do remove covers as I know. There was no way the cover could blow off my bike but it was off one morning, steering lock was broken too.
And I used mine daily too.


The steering lock was the definitive in your case.

What I meant in the previous reply was; if the bike is not there during the day; then there is no point in leaving a cover off to see if the owner attends to his bike on a regular basis .
If the cover was removed to look at security with intent to return with required tools then the cover would be replaced so as not to forewarn the owner.
They may have been disturbed or just got frightened though.

OP; take it as a nature thing but tighten up on your deterants as funds permit.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

Benno wrote:
I've been paranoid all day and tonight I've shifted enough of the crap in the garage to park it in there rather than the roadside driveway...

If you've got a garage, why don't you just use it anyway rather than faff about with a cover each night plus leaving your bike out in the great british weather and also as an open invitation to thieves???
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

While reading this the wind did exactly this to my son's bike/cover. Lifted it right off the bike and plonked it down next to it quite neatly. I wouldn't have believed it either but I've checked the CCTV and my garden was scrote free.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
Benno wrote:
I've been paranoid all day and tonight I've shifted enough of the crap in the garage to park it in there rather than the roadside driveway...

If you've got a garage, why don't you just use it anyway rather than faff about with a cover each night plus leaving your bike out in the great british weather and also as an open invitation to thieves???


Garage is very difficult to get in to and is full of crap. Bike barely fits and the pile of stuff has fallen down between the wheels since last night. Plus aunt is pissed off because it's "her" garage (the deed says something else funnily enough) and she wants to put furniture in it, and demands that the bike is gone within a few days.

So I might just have to fork out 200 quid for an almax. Doubt I'll be able to install a ground anchor unfortunately, nobody here wants their pavement or driveway drilled up.

I think I asked this in the past - what's the deal, legally, with installing a ground anchor on the road/roadside? Or pavement?
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

Benno wrote:
she wants to put furniture in it

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PostPosted: 17:32 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say it was the 99% the wind, found one of my covers down the bottom of the garden when I've not put the bottom strap on, even with it tucked under the chains and wheels.

They would have taken the cover I reckon if not the bike
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

Benno wrote:
what's the deal, legally, with installing a ground anchor on the road/roadside? Or pavement?
I'd be more interested to find out what can be done if you use a ground anchor you find on the road/roadisde - which I expect would be nothing, afterall, who are you to know it wasn't some helpful council people that installed it for the local bikers Razz

Of course that would require some stealthy-batman character to install it in the first place though Wink
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:

Of course that would require some stealthy-batman character to install it in the first place though Wink


go the opposite way, turn up in a white van with a hi-viz and some cones.
double bluff them! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Re: Attempted/planned theft? Reply with quote

i.p.phrealy wrote:
-Matt- wrote:

Of course that would require some stealthy-batman character to install it in the first place though Wink


go the opposite way, turn up in a white van with a hi-viz and some cones.
double bluff them! Thumbs Up


Be on the look out for my thread "anyone got a white van and some cones I can borrow" in a few days Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 11 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you need it a goose...

My bike got nicked from a locked garage with a disklock and chained to wall. they prized the disklock with a screwdriver and cut the chainlock with boltcutters, dont know how they got into my garage. i thought it was professional theives as they were well prepared, but no it turned out to be the local scum who stole it and were seen on CCTV pushing it about 5miles home through town!! The police didnt think to attend this CCTV image...?!?

My bike was recovered, when a local bobby was walking up a footpath leading to a field, looking into complaints of kids offroading, the police got onto the field, the lads bomb-burst and one shot down this alley, hitting the bobby. that got him nicked...

my bike came back, new oil, filters, exhaust can, carb settings and full tank of fuel, so it was in better nick then when the kids stole it in the first place!!
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