unmarked 'busas up on the wolds outside York

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

Just recently there've been a couple of unmarked hiyabusas (and blades) knocking around up here. But how does it work? Someone told me only a marked bike can pull you over and book you. Which suggests the unmarked bikes catch up with you, and have some sort of radio contact with the marked bikes, and keep you in sight until the marked ones can flag you down.

But then I'm thinking well in that case, why not save some tax payers' money by just having the marked bikes patrol - after all, it's not like they're easy to identify when you glancing back in vibrating mirrors, etc. etc.
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[DRZ4Hunned]

I've noticed these bastards, they seem to like patrolling around Seaways cafe (Fridaythorpe).

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Marked or unmarked does not make difference iirc.
It is officer in uniform.

From experience bike coppers will stick to wearing their white work helmet with the communication kit in it.
That's a little clue when you are out and about.
They also may tempt you to a little 'race'.
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[gavbriggs]

You're under no obligation to stop unless it's a marked vehicle. But the unmarked ones are usually recording everything so they just get the marked vehicles to book you and use the video as evidence!

Simplez

[wristjob]

the unmarked stuff is there as a rope dispenser
they follow giving you all the rope you need to hang yourself.
they could pull you over for a bit of excess speed or a questionable overtake,but no they will let you dig the biggest hole you can.
remember the vid they released of the "insane rider" going a bit quick saying it wasnt safe for an unmarked unit to stop the rider.
but they edited the bit where the rider stopped to fill up with fuel.

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[j00pY]

Yep I thought that vid was terrible. If the rider was so dangerous, surely stop him asap rather than let him carry on for x minutes.

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I imagine the riders of the bikes are traffic officers. They don't need to be in uniform to pull you over. S163 RTA.

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[mailee]

I don't think they would goad me into speeding...on a 750 Virago, probably laugh though.

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[chickenstrip]

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Around the south coast on a may day weekend a while ago (I was going for hang gliding and had forgotten it was a 'bike' thing too) - unmarked bike slowly caught up with me, while I was sitting behind a truck with double whites.
He was very slowly overtaking cars as they sat in the gutter letting him past. Should have been a warning to me - did make me wonder WTF he was doing.

Comes and sits RIGHT up my backside. I wave him past a couple of times. He doesn't pass. When it's safe to do so, I overtake and 'make progress' down the road - he follows me on the overtake. We both cross the double white lines.

I get to my destination, which isn't too far down the road and as I'm getting bike kit off a marked bike pulls up.

Has a go at me for endangering kittens. Eventually he admits that a bike cop would only overtake on double whites if THEY considered it safe for the kittens.
I still get the points .

[Rogerborg]

Synopsis: stop for a constable in uniform. The vehicle is not relevant.

If you don't stop, you'll still get done though.
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[Dave70]

I don't know the legal position as to whether or not an unmarked police bike can pull you but, strangely enough, I caught one of those TV shows on sky earlier today. You know the type, about how the cops are there to protect us from ourselves programmes.

Anyway, one part of the show was a copper on an unmarked bike, who was out to stop other bikers from killing kittens. The tactic they used was for the unmarked copper to catch up and follow bikers on a segment of road and video their traffic violations (crossing solid white lines, speeding, pulling wheelies and the like). He would then radio up ahead to waiting marked police cars, describing the offences commited and they would pull the biker over.

At no point did the cop on the bike make himself known to the offending biker.

[-Matt-]

They're going to be using scamera-bikes in avon soon. Moving just in time it seems
https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/bristol-and-somerset-begin-motorcycle-speed-camera-scheme/24959.html

[Llama-Farmer]

Friend was up at Squires the other day in his car and said there was an unmarked S1000RR in motorsport tri-colours nearby which had pulled over a Ducati, copper was wearing 1-piece leathers and unremarkable helmet (i.e. not plain white)

Only thing that gave him away he said was blue lights behind the screen. Had a Drift HD camera (or similar looking) on the side of his helmet.

So keep an eye out for that. Although how you'd spot that until it's too late I don't know.
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[gavbriggs]

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[clancy]

Agree with the above post, I go to a lot of car shows and a lot of people have police lights fitted for "show use"

I've been out with people who just turn them on public roads for a laugh for various reasons

You do not have to stop for an unmarked vehicle

Although I don't know if there's any legal differences, I'd imagine they can still do yiu for things

Didn't that guy who went to prison in a gtr r34 get done by an under cover bike who lured him into a race
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[clancy]

How do you know they are in uniform in an unmarked vehicle ?

It's a rather grey area. Just like " a safe place to stop" seen people use that to their amusement as well
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[lihp]

You often don't know.

However, to say that you don't have to stop for an unmarked car is incorrect.

Every unmarked car I have seen usually have police lights in the grille etc, and signs in the back window.

[clancy]

I'm sure there's something to your advantage like saying you weren't sure and felt in danger

Either way, at car shows I've seen expensive cars with full police lights and sirens, there's no way you could tell the difference, im sure there's some crap about not having to stop if your not sure etc
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